bob1999
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Searching For an Elder's Manual (with margin scribble)
by arko_n9ne inevery day i am on here, i learn new things.
a little while back, there was a post about the existense of elder manuals with km required notes in the margin area that gave away a little more than the gb wanted.. how do i get my hands on a copy of that?
i know it's difficult to obtain pay attention (with margin scribble) and it's all the more difficult to obtain a copy of shepherd the flock of god (with margin scribble) since it is relatively newer.. if anyone could help me find a copy, be it hardcopy or pdf, i would give my left cheek.
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Letters to a friend about the memorial:
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bob1999
"So we are supposed to have enough spirit to walk in it, but not enough to be God’s children and partake at the memorial?"
Great question.
The WTS wants you to believe that the "great crowd" is saved by being part of, and staying close to, the organization that is supposably being lead by the 144,000
The only problem with that, that's not what the bible says.
No where in the bible is salvation found anywhere except through Christ and being "in Christ".
The WTS clearlly says that the great crowd is not part of the New Covenant but the bible clearly says that it is only those in the New Covenant that are saved.
A person is either "in Christ" or they are not. "In Christ" means salvation, not "in Christ" means not saved.
Romans 6
" 1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his. 6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with,that we should no longer be slaves to sin— 7 because anyone who has died [died to sin, baptized into Christ, buried with him, united with him, crucified with him, not died in a physical way as the WTS would have you believe] has been set free from sin."
8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. 10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God. 11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Romans 8
" 1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death."
The only biblical way to be saved is to be in Christ. There are not two saved classes as the WTS would have you believe.
Peace
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"Christian" Love... At Its Finest...
by AGuest inhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/28/bethlehem-religious-fight_n_1172475.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl20|sec1_lnk2%26plid%3d123431.
yet, the palestinians are considered the "bad" guys.... sheesh.
and peace to you, all!.
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bob1999
"Yet, the Palestinians are considered the "bad" guys..."
Are you really equating a "scuffle" to rockets?
Peace
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11,824 Memorial Partakers in 2011
by FrankWTower inthere were 11,202 partakers in 2010. and 11,824 partakers in 2011.. there was an increase of 622 or 5.5% in one year.. your thoughts?.
source: 2012 yearbook (in spanish).
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bob1999
"Truly the door to Heaven is open again "
For the WTS new light on the generation understand to work, the doors of Heaven have to be opened again.
Think about it.
Peace
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Newer teachings replacing the old
by Anator inhave you noticed that some newer teachings that were at one time fixed in stone have been abolished and now appear as new light.. 1. generation from 1914 to over-lapping generations.
2. annointed stopped in 1935, but 70 years later it is now acceptable.
if you were to suggest either one of these before it was made offical, i'm sure you could have been df'd for saying it.. any other newer teachings similar to the above that you may have noticed over the years?.
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bob1999
"1. Generation from 1914 to over-lapping generations"
1952, Human generation of people that saw with understanding the events of 1914. (15yo to start with then 10yo and lastly babies born that year)
Babies born that year? So much for "with understanding of the events of 1914".
1995, A modern day equivalent of un-repentant Israel.
2007, Same as 1929. Some of the remnant will still be here....
2010, A baby born in 1914, becomes annointed, lives to be 100 years old and before he dies a baby is born, becomes annointed, lives to be 100 years old.
So there you go. The WTS has it all sewed up with no need to change anymore dates until at least 2114.
BTW they had to "re-open heavens doors" to make this work.
Peace
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1 John 4:2
by N.drew in(the previous verse warns there will be false prophets).
by this you will know that the spirit is of god because the whole spirit is in agreement with jesus christ that among flesh (mankind) has come out of god is.. i think it means not was but what is.
it means we can believe christ is among us to do the will of god through us.
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bob1999
"God is eating for you bob?"
Yes he is, because without him I can do nothing. (nothing good)
You seen to have a problem with God's sovereignty.
Peace
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1 John 4:2
by N.drew in(the previous verse warns there will be false prophets).
by this you will know that the spirit is of god because the whole spirit is in agreement with jesus christ that among flesh (mankind) has come out of god is.. i think it means not was but what is.
it means we can believe christ is among us to do the will of god through us.
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bob1999
"What does HAVE eternal life mean in your opinion Bob?"
Genesis 3:22
"Then the LORD God said, "Look, the human beings have become like us, knowing both good and evil. What if they reach out, take fruit from the tree of life, and eat it? Then they will live forever!""
How do we eat from the tree of life? Is it our doing or God's?
Peace
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1 John 4:2
by N.drew in(the previous verse warns there will be false prophets).
by this you will know that the spirit is of god because the whole spirit is in agreement with jesus christ that among flesh (mankind) has come out of god is.. i think it means not was but what is.
it means we can believe christ is among us to do the will of god through us.
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bob1999
(because again then, what separated Judas, if it can't possibly be done?).
Where do you read that Judas had his heart changed? Where (when) was Judas born again?
1 John 5:13 Means exactly what it says. Believers HAVE eternal life. Eternal life = eternal salvation.
From reading what you have wrote I am lead to believe that you think man decides what God accomplishes?
Peace
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1 John 4:2
by N.drew in(the previous verse warns there will be false prophets).
by this you will know that the spirit is of god because the whole spirit is in agreement with jesus christ that among flesh (mankind) has come out of god is.. i think it means not was but what is.
it means we can believe christ is among us to do the will of god through us.
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bob1999
According to 1 John 5:13 those that believe in the name of the Son of God have eternal life.
1 John 5:13
"I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life."
According to Romans 8:38 nothing can separate the believer from the love of God in Christ.
"And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God's love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow--not even the powers of hell can separate us from God's love."
Seeking after God is not something that natural man can do. He needs to be born again first. Being born again is something that the Spirit does. Not something that man does.
Ezekiel 36:26
"I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh."
"I will give..." "I will remove..." This is God taking action, not man.
John 3:3
In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
1 Corinthians 2:14
"The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned."
If salvation was left up to man, if it is man's choice, then all men would be lost. For man, without God's Spirit changing his heart, would not, indeed can not, choose God.
Peace
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1 John 4:2
by N.drew in(the previous verse warns there will be false prophets).
by this you will know that the spirit is of god because the whole spirit is in agreement with jesus christ that among flesh (mankind) has come out of god is.. i think it means not was but what is.
it means we can believe christ is among us to do the will of god through us.
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bob1999
"Hopefully, you will find that truth"
I don't understand why you keep saying that.
I have already told you that I have been saved by God through Christ.
None of what we have talked about and disagreed about has anything to do with salvation.
If you seek God you must have already had your heart changed by the Spirit.
If I seek God my heart must have already been changed by the Spirit.
Natural man (fallen man whose heart has not been changed by the Spirit) does not, can not seek after God.
I believe that both of us seek after God.
Peace