oh waiting, as for spy games, I agree it was good but it was unrealstic as hell. Do you really beleive that a lone man who just retired from the CIA (and therefore have all access wiped) be able to anonymously call a military strike into communist china? Do you think the US would really rescue a spy in communist china? The realistic scenario is he would have been executed and the american public would never have known he was ever a spy.
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Vanilla Sky w/Tom Cruise
by patio34 infelicitations to everyone,.
i saw vanilla sky yesterday.
it was engaging with a surprise ending.
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Vanilla Sky w/Tom Cruise
by patio34 infelicitations to everyone,.
i saw vanilla sky yesterday.
it was engaging with a surprise ending.
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bboyneko
My problem with vanilla sky is that they throw the ending at you, there is a tiny, allusion to what is really going on at the beginning. But you really can't quite guess what is going on until the very end. So you are left in confusion and its a very frustrating ride until the end.
I liked the movie I just wish it had been set up more like sixth sense, where there were many clues and hints as to what was really going on, like a mystery novel.
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ex-JW Christians Suck!
by mikepence inthere, i said it.. how can you leave one brainwashing controlling world view and dive right into another?!.
duh!!!.
see http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=17131&site=3 for a great example of why they suck.. aaaaaarrrrrrgggghhhh!.
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bboyneko
What really sucks is when ex-jw become breakdancers
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bboyneko
did someone say bboy?
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DA or not DA or continue slipping away ?
by alliwannadoislive infor weeks now, i've been trying to put together a disassociation letter - incidently, it's you lot that have put me up to this - and it's nearing completion but i'm feeling nervous about sending it.
the fast approaching christmas celebration thingymajig is kinda egging me on as i want to blaze christmas lights everywhere and not feel nervous about the possibility of a visit from the po who drops the mags in to me fortnightly (i'm generally 'not in' ... ahem ...).
i would appreciate your for's and against's - to either convince me to go ahead, or to think again and stay the execution ...
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bboyneko
1) Thumbing your nose at their rules and regulations, which are non-scriptural anyway. I didn't sign a piece of paper to join them, neither will I sign anything to leave them.
2) Allowing your JW friends and relatives to talk to you, enabling you to retain your relationships with them, and hence, having a chance to help them leave the Borg too.
It's sad how people feel that conditional relationship is a real relationship. Blood means nothing in the end. I'd prefer a true friend who helps me unconditionally than a mother who refuses to speak to me because I do not beleive in the same god as her. STAND UP FOR YOURSELF. Slipping away is not 'thumbing your nose at their rules' but rather PLAYING INTO THEIR RULES. They are intimidating you into making any stand. They are intimidating you by holding your family hostage. They still have power over you. They don't want you to speak. They don;t want you to make a stir and show that you are finally free. They want you to shut up. Only by DA do you SEVER ALL TIES with the Jehovah's Witnesses and then they no longer have anything to do with your life. If you friends are hurt by this and refuse to speak to you..too bad! Conditional friends are not real friends. If your family stops talking to you, screw them! That's not a very healthy family relationship either, its terrible for you mentally.
You have a girlfriend..you hate her..theres no more love..but instead of being a man and severing the relationship you string her along because you dont want to hurt her.
The bottom line here is its unhealthy to leave this thing festering and unconfronted. To recover you can't just string along your family and 'friends' allowing them to beleive you still are into their bull#$@%. The ones who are helpable are the ones who already have doubts anyway. The super-brain washed JW's close their mind and hearts to any message that is critical of the JW. The rebelious ones will speak to you even if you are DA, that is what happened with me.
I understand the personal choice to remain a 'spy' but like the bible says, remove the rafter from your eye before removing the splinter in anothers eye. You need to recover and take care of yourself mentally first before going in and helping others. Recovering from a cult is no easy matter, the scars will remain your entire life. How can you help someone who is bleeding to death when you have a knife in your back?
When I DA myself I lost all my JW friends except one, who still spoke to me rebelliously. My brother wont speak to me, and neither will his fiance. My little brother still does, and so does my mom. My father I refuse to talk to because of his long history of verbally and physically abusing me and my mom. I would be a mental nutcase if I had remained, andhave to sit through the brainwahsing and read the repetitve 3rd grade level literature.Be true to yourself and live YOUR life.
I think staying in as a 'fade' only slows your recovery and does imeasurable harm to your mental health. It's like a wife staying in an abusive relationship in hopes that she might get her husband to see the light and stop beating the shit out of her. The wife in thise case needs to get out and recover from the abuse before she can ever hope to help her abusive husband. She has to remove all control he has over her.
my 2ยข.
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DA or not DA or continue slipping away ?
by alliwannadoislive infor weeks now, i've been trying to put together a disassociation letter - incidently, it's you lot that have put me up to this - and it's nearing completion but i'm feeling nervous about sending it.
the fast approaching christmas celebration thingymajig is kinda egging me on as i want to blaze christmas lights everywhere and not feel nervous about the possibility of a visit from the po who drops the mags in to me fortnightly (i'm generally 'not in' ... ahem ...).
i would appreciate your for's and against's - to either convince me to go ahead, or to think again and stay the execution ...
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bboyneko
DA yourself= stand up for yourself and sever any control they may have over you, making a stand for your own self-worth and sending a blistering message to others who have secretly been on the fence, this is especially effective if you were an exemplary witness.
slip away= be cowardly...you are so intimidated by the elders and what they can do to you that you slip into the shadows and run away, hoping and praying that they don't someday show up for a sheperding call, and all the while you have to compromize your true feelings by just nodding and smiling when JW relatives tell you about how wonderful the last assembly was.
I DA myself and made a stand.
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ExJw And Abortions
by tyydyy inwe all know the jw view of abortion before leaving but what about now?
how have your views changed?
i used to secretly cheer when i heard that women had gained more rights concerning abortions.
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bboyneko
whatever, if abortion where undeninably murder it would be banned.
The bottom line is -- they're not babies, and they're not unborn children. Just as black isn't white no matter how often you say it.Giving a fetus more rights than a woman, who is the host and has the fetus there only by her permission is insane. It's like giving a malignant tumor more right than the host it is in. Basically, the woman has the last say, it;s her bodies, not the fetuses.
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Dead Sea Scrolls published Jesus not There
by Satanus inthe prep and publishing of the dead sea scrolls is finally finishing.
they date from 250 bc to 70 ce.
out of a total of 52 volumes, jesus christ is not mentioned even once.. _________.
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bboyneko
I might get attacked for this, but I can't wait to see christianity go the way of the dodo.
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Is there a big conspiracy to keep you poor?
by Mindchild inwhen i was a witness, i often heard that if you left the trooth that you would become rich fast, have gratuitous sex constantly, become a drug addict and end up worshipping satan.
man am i disappointed!!
it seemed for the longest time that there was a giant conspiracy to keep me a poor working stiff just above the poverty line, especially so when i was going to college full time.
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hmm... THe internet is the way to go. If you've got a good idea register a dot com and advertise advertise advertise. Low overhead and world-wide market reach make this option attractive.
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People Suck
by Bgurltryal indo people in their existance create much more greif inadvertantly that they cause happiness with purpose?
an action that can seem so small to one person or a desision made with selfish intent can have effects without the action taker or desicion maker even considering or realising it.
selfishness or self absorbation; we focus so much on us that the reprocusions of every little thing we do become inconsequential as long as we or those we care about are 'safe'.. when i was little in the car i would make up stories about people we drove past based on that split second they passed through my life.
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hehe if you guys knew what happened you probably would rethink your view of selfishness as healthy. Selfishness in itself is not bad, I agree. Babies are the most selfish creatures on earth. Why? Thay have to be. Its a survival trait.
But in your life, you have to make descisions that dont concern life or death. You might take a petty vengeance on someone, that causes barely any harm to the person you intended to render the vengeance upon. However, your action causes several people unrelated to your action to die. Is this selfisheness still healthy? As self-aware beings we have a responsibility to others that the selfish actions we take do not cause calamitous harm on innocent people.
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