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  The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

  by sabastious in

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  jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

  " for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

  this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

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  myelaine

  dear sabastious...

  you said: "My point is that modern society qualifies sexual relations and positions it into moral structures just as the ancient world did. However in the future, which is us, we still look at sex with a respect at the very least and generally look down upon people who show none for it."...

  chaste conduct toward someone who you regard as your husband/wife has imposed limits...you can't expect God to regard you as having entered into the bonds of marriage (without the paper) if you are still promiscous or a fornicator. neither should anyone expect society in general to loosen its standards to accommidate a new sexual freedom that is being imposed on them.

  well, actually the indwelling Holy Spirit assures a christian that His presence within makes them a new creature...and...1 corinthians 2:15.

  ...Sabasteous, I included the scripture from revelation as a warning to you to not get carried away with the beast's (and his kingdom/societies)prevailing tide which IS in opposition to the Holiness of God...

  love michelle
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  The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

  by sabastious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

  " for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

  this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

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  myelaine

  dear sabastious...

  you said: "To have many simultaneous sexual relationships could also indicate use of sex to progress in some secular manner. I personally don't think the term should be limited to the mixing of commerce and sex. There is a broader principle to be found within society's general rejection of prostitution and it most certainly involves a religious reverence for the act"...

  the pursuit of chastity and abstinence is, at its core, a christian desire to be Holy and "set apart" like the God that is worshipped. when the goal is chastity or abstinence the strict designation fornication or prostitution wouldn't matter.

  sabastious do you favor a return so to speak to a "modern roman" society where the government and society is endoctinated to be permissive of an individuals personal desires...regardless. history shows that someone or a group that does take a stand for certain principles or "sets themselves apart" from the predominant societal "movement" draws negative attention they aren't tolerated (think nero et al) ...hey that situation has started to unfold in our society today hasn't it?

  honestly, listening to you, sometimes I wonder if I am witnessing a beast trying to talk like a lamb or a christian in the middle of an epic fail. rev. 13:3-10

  love michelle
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  The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

  by sabastious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

  " for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

  this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

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  myelaine
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  The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

  by sabastious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

  " for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

  this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

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  myelaine

  dear sabastious...

  you said: "Chastity and abstinence are not secular pursuits, they are religious pursuits."...

  I realize that chastity and abstinence aren't secular pursuits but one of its "offshoots" the notion of personal dignity, as pertains to sexual activity, is not confined to the christian religion but is a secular "virtue" as well.

  strictly speaking, they are not general "religious" pursuits either...there are and have been religions that practice "sacred sex", sexual religious rites...and don't forget the temple prostitutes.

  maybe it is the case that CHRISTIAN religious principles (and their attendant virtures) spilling out into secular society is disagreeable to you? in which case, revelation 21:7-8 might be disagreeable to you too.

  love michelle
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  The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

  by sabastious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

  " for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

  this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

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  myelaine

  dear sabastious...

  I hadn't mentioned the idea of sin. I mentioned dignity.

  whether you place a promiscuous person's actions in a file titled "sin" or "not sin" doesn't have much if any bearing on the secular notion of personal dignity.

  there are people who get caught up in their bad choices to the degree that they can't extradite themselves...if the whole country was left to their own devices where would the help (interventions)for these people come from but from those who recognize that there ARE limits to ones ability to control otherwise natural inclinations?...I think that these principles are beneficial as an (intellectual) barrier to wanton even lascivious sexuality.

  you said: "I believe that the pedophilia rampant in the religions of today is a result of the clinging to ancient laws for longer than necessary."...

  pedophiles and those who abuse older children sexually have been known to be married too, they are not just found in the religious sexually repressed camp if that is what you are implying.

  love michelle
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  Missed you my friends

  by d in

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  i have not been on this site for a while becausei have been working so how have people been on this site?.

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  myelaine

  cool. I used to provide weekend respite care for children with disabilities. it can be a challenge, but I'm sure you have noticed great rewards too.

  love michelle
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  The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

  by sabastious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

  " for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

  this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

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  myelaine

  dear sabastious...

  you said: "Taking an ancient law on the subject of sexual relations from a world void of modern medical technology and directly enforcing it upon a modern day populaton is completely immoral and destructive."...

  ancient laws/principles were articulated to acknowledge responsibily for personal dignity as opposed to the un-restrained or un-trained passions inherent in man.

  we need to make room for these laws/principles if we want to live in a civilized society, don't you think?

  love michelle
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  Missed you my friends

  by d in

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  i have not been on this site for a while becausei have been working so how have people been on this site?.

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  myelaine

  what kind of camp? a summer children's camp or a seasonal campground? what type of work were you doing?

  my family has been able to spend more time than in previous years out camping and stuff...unfortunately most of the lakes around here have algae warnings.

  love michelle
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  Missed you my friends

  by d in

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  2. child-abuse

  i have not been on this site for a while becausei have been working so how have people been on this site?.

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  myelaine

  hi d...

  where have you been working?

  your alias made me smile. years ago my son and I were watching bram stokers dracula and when that young fellow was reading (while dracula was narrating) the welcome letter from dracula it was signed, "D"...since then every once in a while I ask him to do an impersonation (it happens) we look at each other and do our dracula impersonation together...just "D" with an accent...then we laugh and laugh...(ok, I laugh and laugh...he looks at me with an uncomfortable smile)

  anyway...nice to see you again.

  love michelle
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  Are the Jews meek?

  by slimboyfat in

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  i thought these were pretty surprising comments in the consolation magazine in 1946, just a few months after the full horrors of the holocaust emerged, under the heading "are the jews meek?":.

  "there is no evidence in the scriptures that the jews as a people are meek.

  on the contrary, jehovah's witnesses only find it stated in the bible that the jews are "stiff-necked and hard-hearted", but when they call at their homes with the message of god's kingdom they witness the same characteristics.

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  myelaine

  dear slimboyfat...

  "They seem to think that because they are Jews, and were once God's chosen people, they must ever remain that way." Consolation, Jan 2nd 1946, pages 14 and 15."...

  "Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable." romans 11:28-29

  love michelle