Posts by myelaine

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Best EZ 1 Liners to Say to Witnesses?

by LV101 in

jw
friends

any suggestions?

attending an invite (strange we're invited but hoping to make it worth my while) but i don't want to suffer big consequences as i've already said enough wrong stuff.

i'm stuck reading hassan's ccmc book (about half way --- just don't have time and not into it).

myelaine

dear LV101...

For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. (2 corinthians 5:21)

how is Jesus able to impose the righteousness of God?

love michelle

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Who Really is The Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Recovery in

let's assume, as most of you probably believe, that the anointed christians are not the fds.

if the anointed are not the fds, who are?.

"Actually the WT's interpretation makes perfect sense when we consider the context. Surely, Jesus' would provide a spiritual feeding program for his followers during such turbulent and gruesome days. Jesus is Head of the Congregation isn't he?"...

...Tell me, O you whom I love,
Where you feed your flock,
Where you make it rest at noon.
For why should I be as one who veils herself
By the flocks of your companions? sos1:7

love michelle

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear EntirelyPossible...

"Christians may practice it for reasons related to religion, but that in no way means that celibacy and abstinence are related to Christianity in particular."...

...I don't recall saying that they were.

love michelle

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear EntirelyPossible...

my whole statement was: this seems to suggest that in some religions chastity and abstinence is expected of the "priesthood" but the "principles" of chastity and abstinence are not expected of the laity...not so with christianity who's adherents make a personal choice to be set apart like their God.

you said: "OK. But that doesn't mean that abstinence or celibacy are particular to Christianity."...

do/did adherents of other religions practice this to be like their God, Holy and set apart? hinduism has many gods and buddhism doesn't have a definite god so I see the elements or reason for the christian practice as particular to christianity.

love michelle

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear EntirelyPossible...

you stated in response to: "the pursuit of chastity and abstinence is, at its core, a christian desire to be Holy and "set apart" like the God that is worshipped."

Well that's just wrong. There are many cultures with celibacy and abstinance that had nothing to do with Christianity or the Jews.

from wikipedia: "In some religions, some groups of people are expected to remain unmarried and to abstain from sex completely. These groups include monks, nuns, and priests in various sects of Hinduism, Buddhism and Christianity. Chastity is required of the respective sacerdotal orders."...

this seems to suggest that in some religions chastity and abstinence is expected of the "priesthood" but the "principles" of chastity and abstinence are not expected of the laity...not so with christianity who's adherents make a personal choice to be set apart like their God.

love michelle

p.s. the "biblical" thing is...even the angels of God were given the personal choice

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear sabasteous...

in Jesus Christ ALL things are made new. (rev 13:9)

love michelle

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear sabasteous...

I am a former promiscuous, cronic drug abusing binge drinker who was sexually abused for many years as a child into the preteens by a non-religious married man. any other questions?

love michelle

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

here are the lyrics of a popular song that happens to be playing on my radio right now:

Hide your heart under the bed and lock
Your secret drawer. Wash the angels
From your head won't need them anymore.
Love is a demon and you're the one he's
Coming for. Oh my Lord.

He's bringing sweet salvation, let temptation
Take him in. He's every fear and every hope
And every sing sin. He's the universe the
Love you've been imagining. Oh my Lord.
Oh my Lord. Oh my Lord.

And I am ashes. I am Jesus. I am precious.
Could I be your girl. Could I be your girl.

Put a chair against the door and turn the lights
Down low. Write a letter to yourself
No-one will ever know. Tell them all about
The girl who just refused to fall. Oh my Lord.

He is the very breath you feel inside your lungs at night.
He is the bitter wind who's drying up your appetite.
He is the darkness that seeps into your fading light.
Oh my Lord. Oh my Lord.

And I am ashes. I am Jesus. I am precious. Could I be
Your girl. Could I be your girl. I am worthless
Sounds compared to all your perfect words.
Could I be your girl. Could I be your girl.

Wash the angels from your hair won't need them
Anymore. Hide your heart under the bed and lock
Your secret drawer. Love is the demon and you're
The one he's coming for. Oh my Lord. Oh my Lord.
Could I be your girl. Could I be your girl.

if this isn't indoctrination for the future, I don't know what is...

love michelle

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear sabastious...

you said: "My point is that modern society qualifies sexual relations and positions it into moral structures just as the ancient world did. However in the future, which is us, we still look at sex with a respect at the very least and generally look down upon people who show none for it."...

chaste conduct toward someone who you regard as your husband/wife has imposed limits...you can't expect God to regard you as having entered into the bonds of marriage (without the paper) if you are still promiscous or a fornicator. neither should anyone expect society in general to loosen its standards to accommidate a new sexual freedom that is being imposed on them.

well, actually the indwelling Holy Spirit assures a christian that His presence within makes them a new creature...and...1 corinthians 2:15.

...Sabasteous, I included the scripture from revelation as a warning to you to not get carried away with the beast's (and his kingdom/societies)prevailing tide which IS in opposition to the Holiness of God...

love michelle

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear sabastious...

you said: "To have many simultaneous sexual relationships could also indicate use of sex to progress in some secular manner. I personally don't think the term should be limited to the mixing of commerce and sex. There is a broader principle to be found within society's general rejection of prostitution and it most certainly involves a religious reverence for the act"...

the pursuit of chastity and abstinence is, at its core, a christian desire to be Holy and "set apart" like the God that is worshipped. when the goal is chastity or abstinence the strict designation fornication or prostitution wouldn't matter.

sabastious do you favor a return so to speak to a "modern roman" society where the government and society is endoctinated to be permissive of an individuals personal desires...regardless. history shows that someone or a group that does take a stand for certain principles or "sets themselves apart" from the predominant societal "movement" draws negative attention they aren't tolerated (think nero et al) ...hey that situation has started to unfold in our society today hasn't it?

honestly, listening to you, sometimes I wonder if I am witnessing a beast trying to talk like a lamb or a christian in the middle of an epic fail. rev. 13:3-10

love michelle