Posts by myelaine

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Killing Ananias and Sapphira

by irondork in

i happened to be reading this part of acts yesterday, ananias and sappira getting zapped for lying about keeping a portion of their profits.

it occurred to me, that is, like, oh my gawd, soooo old testament!

is there any other place in the new testament where a person was immediately executed by god for their error?

myelaine

dear NewChapter...

you said: "I believe some posters here have just been compared to A & S. Which means they have been called out. Let's see what happens."...

just calling their attention to the obvious. God has brought you (a confessed atheist) in to challenge "sapphira" where a confessed believer has failed. That might imply that "ananias" is not only embarrassing but "inconvenient".

The church laments the different sects and cults that have sprung up. Yet Tammy disseminates her new "christ" unchallenged and was even encourged by "ananias" previously.

but...God is merciful and they do have until their last breath to confess and repent...according to scripture.

love michelle

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Killing Ananias and Sapphira

by irondork in

i happened to be reading this part of acts yesterday, ananias and sappira getting zapped for lying about keeping a portion of their profits.

it occurred to me, that is, like, oh my gawd, soooo old testament!

is there any other place in the new testament where a person was immediately executed by god for their error?

myelaine

dear Tammy...

you said: " Christ also did away with eye for eye... and if God does not change, and Christ is the image of God, then eye for eye was never what God wanted or demanded. But rather it is what the people understood."...

Jesus didn't do away with an eye for an eye for everyone...BECAUSE God does not change.

Jesus is the propitiation for the sins of those who have asked Him to be their Savior...those who refuse Him and the mercy of God are still in the position of being accountable for thier own sins...therefore the eye for an eye JUSTICE of God is in effect in BOTH cases.

partial quote: "it goes against what Christ showed about His Father"...you over-look the JUSTICE of God IN Jesus Christ portrayed in the NT. There are many places in the NT that Jesus in in full accord with the will of His Father. in john 8:24-26, Jesus is clear, "if you don't believe I am He" you are still under condemnation and you will take your sins to the judgement seat. in the book of revelation Jesus is represented at judging those sins and casting people into outer darkness where they will have NO part in the kingdom. rev 22:14-15

What I see is at least two people on this thread who are being false to the Holy Spirit. The people who Jesus called to the office of apostle were informed of the commandments of Jesus and went ahead and preached ALL that He taught them...the Holy Spirit leading them into ALL truth so that they were enabled to preach and write these things. The Holy Spirit facilitated the writing of these doctrines of truth (acts 1:1-2). One person has taken the initiative in listening to and passing on "insight from some other spirit" who denies what is written. Unfortunately yet another person isn't stepping up to the plate and contending for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints in response to this error either...both are holding back some proceeds from the transaction...which can be stated as salvation/mercy in return for their "reasonable service" in ministering the gospel (that's their intention being on this forum)which is the acceptable and perfect will of God. romans 12:1-2; 2 timothy 2:4-5...

no disciple who has his ministry should hold back from teaching the whole counsel revealed by the Holy Spirit because to hold back a portion is to handle the word of God deceitfully. 2 corinthians 4:1-4

imo this account of ananias and sapphira is a sober warning to the church that what they say to men they will be held accountable for in the judgement. (matthew 12:36-37)...

love michelle

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Best EZ 1 Liners to Say to Witnesses?

by LV101 in

jw
friends

any suggestions?

attending an invite (strange we're invited but hoping to make it worth my while) but i don't want to suffer big consequences as i've already said enough wrong stuff.

i'm stuck reading hassan's ccmc book (about half way --- just don't have time and not into it).

myelaine

dear LV101...

For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. (2 corinthians 5:21)

how is Jesus able to impose the righteousness of God?

love michelle

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Who Really is The Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Recovery in

let's assume, as most of you probably believe, that the anointed christians are not the fds.

if the anointed are not the fds, who are?.

myelaine

"Actually the WT's interpretation makes perfect sense when we consider the context. Surely, Jesus' would provide a spiritual feeding program for his followers during such turbulent and gruesome days. Jesus is Head of the Congregation isn't he?"...

...Tell me, O you whom I love,
Where you feed your flock,
Where you make it rest at noon.
For why should I be as one who veils herself
By the flocks of your companions? sos1:7

love michelle

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear EntirelyPossible...

"Christians may practice it for reasons related to religion, but that in no way means that celibacy and abstinence are related to Christianity in particular."...

...I don't recall saying that they were.

love michelle

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear EntirelyPossible...

my whole statement was: this seems to suggest that in some religions chastity and abstinence is expected of the "priesthood" but the "principles" of chastity and abstinence are not expected of the laity...not so with christianity who's adherents make a personal choice to be set apart like their God.

you said: "OK. But that doesn't mean that abstinence or celibacy are particular to Christianity."...

do/did adherents of other religions practice this to be like their God, Holy and set apart? hinduism has many gods and buddhism doesn't have a definite god so I see the elements or reason for the christian practice as particular to christianity.

love michelle

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear EntirelyPossible...

you stated in response to: "the pursuit of chastity and abstinence is, at its core, a christian desire to be Holy and "set apart" like the God that is worshipped."

Well that's just wrong. There are many cultures with celibacy and abstinance that had nothing to do with Christianity or the Jews.

from wikipedia: "In some religions, some groups of people are expected to remain unmarried and to abstain from sex completely. These groups include monks, nuns, and priests in various sects of Hinduism, Buddhism and Christianity. Chastity is required of the respective sacerdotal orders."...

this seems to suggest that in some religions chastity and abstinence is expected of the "priesthood" but the "principles" of chastity and abstinence are not expected of the laity...not so with christianity who's adherents make a personal choice to be set apart like their God.

love michelle

p.s. the "biblical" thing is...even the angels of God were given the personal choice

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear sabasteous...

in Jesus Christ ALL things are made new. (rev 13:9)

love michelle

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

dear sabasteous...

I am a former promiscuous, cronic drug abusing binge drinker who was sexually abused for many years as a child into the preteens by a non-religious married man. any other questions?

love michelle

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

myelaine

here are the lyrics of a popular song that happens to be playing on my radio right now:

Hide your heart under the bed and lock
Your secret drawer. Wash the angels
From your head won't need them anymore.
Love is a demon and you're the one he's
Coming for. Oh my Lord.

He's bringing sweet salvation, let temptation
Take him in. He's every fear and every hope
And every sing sin. He's the universe the
Love you've been imagining. Oh my Lord.
Oh my Lord. Oh my Lord.

And I am ashes. I am Jesus. I am precious.
Could I be your girl. Could I be your girl.

Put a chair against the door and turn the lights
Down low. Write a letter to yourself
No-one will ever know. Tell them all about
The girl who just refused to fall. Oh my Lord.

He is the very breath you feel inside your lungs at night.
He is the bitter wind who's drying up your appetite.
He is the darkness that seeps into your fading light.
Oh my Lord. Oh my Lord.

And I am ashes. I am Jesus. I am precious. Could I be
Your girl. Could I be your girl. I am worthless
Sounds compared to all your perfect words.
Could I be your girl. Could I be your girl.

Wash the angels from your hair won't need them
Anymore. Hide your heart under the bed and lock
Your secret drawer. Love is the demon and you're
The one he's coming for. Oh my Lord. Oh my Lord.
Could I be your girl. Could I be your girl.

if this isn't indoctrination for the future, I don't know what is...

love michelle