Posts by myelaine

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Jesus wife fragment is a fake

by Christ Alone in

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.

gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.

karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.

I've been thinking about the things you say in order to better understand where your coming from. I have to say that as much as I understand your idea of love for loves sake or "the law of love" as you call it...it is a naive and childish (not childlike) theology. Yes, I know you don't like "theology" but anyone who tries to understand the relationship of God to man is practicing theology...that includes you.

perhaps it is because you don't like "theology" and are unwilling to look into the deeper things of God that what is your theology is severely lacking internal consistancy. the one you say is your lord seems to be inconsistant in his values in that for one person(AGuest) he makes it quite clear that his real name must be sanctified with the exclusion of all others but for another person(you) it isn't so important at all. His personality is inconsistant in that, though the Son makes it quite clear in the scriptures that He was sent to save...your lord has made it clear to you that anyone's righteousness is enough to save them...as long as they live "the law of love".

Aside from the fact that your "law of love" seems to be able to replace the purpose of righteousness in Jesus Christ for salvation...there is no distinction made as to whether it is love borne of the Holy Spirit or love born of the fallen flesh. You see, the love that Jesus was talking about was love that is born in the believer of the Holy Spirit and flows upwards and outwards...if someone doesn't believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit then how can the love of God...that perfect uniting love born of the Holy Spirit be in him?...how can A&E "fallen love" save them?

I think that your "law of love" devalues the nature of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ which is inconsistant with the love of the Father towards Him.

would you consider the possiblility that you might need to fine tune your law of love to better reflect the purpose of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit ?...or perhaps you would consider stating the truth about the fact that your law of love in no way amends or replaces the need for salvation in Jesus Christ alone. Can you be forthright about that without fear of sounding judgemental? at this point your theological construction implies that your interpretation of the law of love is enough.

love michelle

494

Jesus wife fragment is a fake

by Christ Alone in

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.

gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.

karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.

myelaine

dear NewChapter...

I don't know what will happen to her but she says she wont deny him OR that he talks to her...I was wondering if she was afraid of something happening or if anything at all would happen if she denied him.

love michelle

494

Jesus wife fragment is a fake

by Christ Alone in

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.

gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.

karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.

myelaine

dear Tammy...

does the saying "My sheep hear My voice" have to mean hear an audible voice?...it can very well be an expression meaning, My sheep will know whether what other people speak is coming from My heart...(1 thess 1:1-9)

that is what discerning "spirits" is about...that is how I know that AGuest doesn't speak for the Son sent by the Father...I don't hear His voice when she speaks...

I also know that God wouldn't use the same means to speak to people as the demons must use. We are warned against listening to deceptive spirits. even a nice demon is a deceptive demon if he causes you to listen to him over a real live person. that's one reason why the canon was formed...we know that the Holy Spirit led real live people to testify about Jesus Christ and to live their life to glorify God in Jesus Christ(1 thess 1:1-9)...it wasn't just left up to anyone to hear a spirit and pass it on. there are too many spirits with many different voices who are all too willing to talk to humans.

btw...do you know what will happen to you if you deny your lord?...

love michelle

494

Jesus wife fragment is a fake

by Christ Alone in

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.

gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.

karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.

myelaine

dear Tammy...

I disagreed with your statement: "This world was not meant to have pain/suffering/death."...the bible says that it is this world that God confined pain, suffering and death to. it is His garden that wasn't meant to have pain, suffering and death, that's why A&E were cast out to this world.

well, when AGuest said that Jesus doesn't even exist it kind of allowed me to see her process of elimination...and that's why I asked you, since you are her sister in the same christ, what you think of her statement...because if she "hears" the same christ so much more clearly than you...you can't really say for sure that your opinion is the correct one if it disagrees with hers, can you?...what if, down the road, this christ that you both hear tells you the same thing that brought AGuest to her process of elimination? what if he says that it does matter A LOT how you say his name...it really matters because if you say it wrong, you are actually addressing someone who doesn't exist!

this is something that you should really think about because if you start to "hear" your lord as well as AGuest hears your lord...you might have to adopt this same attitude in order to please him...I mean, eventually, if you want to "hear" as well as AGuest so as to better explain your lord to everyone and stop people from calling on someone who doesn't even exist, right?...that is if you really want people to make use of the provision of salvation by use of that name.

personally, I wouldn't want to, nor do I encourage, hearing any incorporeal "voice"...especially that demon belphegor that AGuest has let loose.

love michelle

494

Jesus wife fragment is a fake

by Christ Alone in

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.

gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.

karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.

myelaine

dear Tammy...

you said: "His name is Jaheshua. I have been hesitant to use this name... because I did not hear it first from Him. But I have asked Him, and in his mercy, He has said His name to me. Quietly, so quietly, that I could have ignored Him if I wanted to..."

in acts 4:12 the Son of God is called the stone which the builders rejected, that stone is consistantly named Jesus. and we are told "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved"...is it unreasonable to expect that if Jesus is not the name given that the real name would be given to everyone loudly in order that more might be saved?

your friend AGuest has said that Jesus Christ doesn't even exist...do you realize how many people (who whole heartedly turned to Jesus) she condemns as unsaved by her statement in relation to what it says in the bible in acts 4:12? what are your thoughts on that since you both have stated that you are sisters "in" your christ?

love michelle

494

Jesus wife fragment is a fake

by Christ Alone in

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.

gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.

karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.

myelaine

dear stillthinking...

you asked: " And what about those that aren't 'his people' that still help? Does that mean Satan is helping the starving?"...

the bible says that God has caused those who weren't His to do His will...cyrus, king of persia, ezekiel 29:4-5.

love michelle

494

Jesus wife fragment is a fake

by Christ Alone in

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.

gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.

karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.

myelaine

dear NewChapter...

I don't think it is a test from God as to how we respond, each of us has his own conscience as to how he will respond. but...if being humanist is the better way to get things done then you would have to show results as to whether that is true or not...christians aren't standing in your way, are they?

I don't think that God is powerless to help these people...He has His people to do His will in this world and they do. As long as He is able to change hearts He has power in this world.

the bible states that satan is the prince of the power of the air in this world and he and his angels work against the will of God in this world.

you said: "Well I happen to think that you're hypocritical to put little hearts after your posts, but I suppose it is better than 'peace'."...do you think that I don't love you?...why?

love michelle

p.s. I glad that you do real things too.

494

Jesus wife fragment is a fake

by Christ Alone in

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.

gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.

karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.

myelaine

dear cofty...

when I addressed NewChapter et al, I was talking about this real world...

what are you doing in the real world to help?...besides arguing YOUR cause.

love michelle

494

Jesus wife fragment is a fake

by Christ Alone in

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.

gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.

karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.

myelaine

dear Tammy...

you said: "This world was not meant to have pain/suffering/death. It does now, and so now those who are in this world must contend with that... until such a time as these things are no more."...

but, the bible states that because of the sin of A&E and their entering this world with their fallen nature that is why this world is as it is.

I think that whether a person is a believer or non-believer the opportunity exists to help these people by putting your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Part of living the christian live is helping the poor...if humanists believe that is part of their ethos too, then good...do it.

also, still waiting for you to name your lord...

dear NewChapter et al...

I think it is kind of hypocritical to say you are concerned about these people AND at the same time USE THEM as propaganda in your no God debate.

love michelle

494

Jesus wife fragment is a fake

by Christ Alone in

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.

gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.

karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.

myelaine

Dear Tammy...

You said: "o kay, what did he have to show mercy about before that you think was so out of character at his death?

Did he kill or beat anyone before? Refuse to forgive someone who asked for his forgiveness? When those he was not sent to find (those other than the lost sheep of israel) exercised faith and asked for help, did he refuse... or show mercy and help them.

The adulterous woman about to be stoned... He could have picked up the first stone... but he forgave instead. That being said, he also forgave people their sins. Released them.

Even him coming here at all was mercy; done out of love for His Father and for us... he did not have to do anything at all if he so chose. For that matter, he knew he was going to be put to death. So his 'forgiveness' was not a deathbed conversion; because he knew that his life was forfeit from the beginning."...

...what is His name?

Love michelle