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Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
italic 4th and 5th century.

629 in the 14th century.

429 in the 14th century (margin).
myelaine

dear designs...

would it be correct to say that there is no proof that isaiah was getting messages from God, transmitting them accurately or that he even existed, there is no collaborating contemporaneous witness to his person. You believe he existed and that he transmitted God's message based on faith. (Even as an atheist!!)

the NT gospels are all collaborating the events leading up to the crucifixion of Jesus and witnesses collaborate each other.

if christians believe isaiah was a prophet of God and he accurately transmitted God's message then why on earth WOULDN'T we believe the gospel testimony?

think about this for a few minutes...from what quarter is OT credibility coming from? Is it islam(who's "prophet" found need to do a re-write to accommodate his new religion) or is it from any other major religion? Who besides the jewish people believes isaiah and supports use of the OT without "evidence" for its veracity? It is christians...it is christians BECAUSE we have a shared faith in the same God. If that wasn't the case then what was the real motivation for gentiles to believe in sin and atonement OR a Messiah. God called us to believe in Him too despite animosity from jewish leaders and religious persecution on the part of roman authorities.

You can think and say whatever you want about what happened back then but it doesn't jive with the "evidence" or reality of Jesus' church.

love michelle
114
Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
italic 4th and 5th century.

629 in the 14th century.

429 in the 14th century (margin).
myelaine

dear designs...

you completely avoided my question.

the OT says ______ in isaiah 53:7-10...On what basis do you prove to yourself that it is accurate transmission from God? OR that God even had a message?

love michelle
114
Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
italic 4th and 5th century.

629 in the 14th century.

429 in the 14th century (margin).
myelaine

Yeah...I meant the stuff you defend as meaning this or that but certainly NOT ________. or put another way, how do you prove to yourself that the law or what isaiah says is sufficiently accurate for you to argue for an interpretation one way or the other
114
Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
italic 4th and 5th century.

629 in the 14th century.

429 in the 14th century (margin).
myelaine

designs...

you said, " Try this- Nothing about the Trial of Jesus is accurate, nothing about the accusations in the Gospels about the Jews is accurate."...

Umm...how do you prove to yourself that anything in the OT is accurate?
114
Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
italic 4th and 5th century.

629 in the 14th century.

429 in the 14th century (margin).
myelaine

dear designs...

Yesterday my comments were (mostly) about what the Torah said about personal sin and the means of atonement required by God. Sacrifice. I didn't say anything that should provoke the response you gave.

Not once did I suggest that all jewish people are "christ killers". it is a fact that today evangelical christian support for the jewish people and israel is in the millions...but I wont shy away from pointing out that back in the day every time Jesus was approached by the religious leaders He showed them from the torah that what He did was "lawful". Unsatisfied, the religious leaders appealed to the roman government and brought charges of sedition against Jesus when all He did was "the works of God". Given that the supreme judge of the land found Jesus innocent of the charges against Him AND given that the religious leaders continued to call for His crucifixion after being found innocent...there is no way to avoid the conclusion that they WERE sinning against their "brother" according to the deut. 19:16-19...19:20-21 implicates the multitude who joined in, calling for Jesus' crucifixion. Jesus died for THEIR sin. that's why He said, "forgive them Father, they know not what they do" ...

Holding all christians accountable for the actions of some is NO BETTER than some christians holding all jewish people accountable for the actions of some. Holding these views in perpetuity IS bigoted and it smacks of narrow mindedness.

Jesus paid the price for not submitting to "authority" and was Himself like two sides of the same coin and He said it best, " render therefore to caesar the things that are caesar's and to God the things that are God's" (matthew 22:15-22)

love michelle
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War: large scale self-defense? What is the Christian remedy?
by Terry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
myelaine

Not by might nor by power but by My Spirit says the LORD of hosts...(zechariah 4:1-7 + judges 7:19-21)

from the confusion of a luke warm "israel" ...to a Spirit filled, two pronged surprise approach WOULD set a precedent.

love michelle
114
Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
italic 4th and 5th century.

629 in the 14th century.

429 in the 14th century (margin).
myelaine

we're not doing that at all designs, but nice try with your ad hominem.
114
Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
italic 4th and 5th century.

629 in the 14th century.

429 in the 14th century (margin).
myelaine

Moses telling the jewish people what God wants.

leviticus 18:1-5
114
Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
italic 4th and 5th century.

629 in the 14th century.

429 in the 14th century (margin).
myelaine

dear designs...

lev 5:11 is in the case of EXTREME poverty (no where is it stated that it is meant to be a permanent replacement for blood sacrifice) the fact remains...NO prescribed offerings have been made on the altar of God's holy temple since around 70AD.

love michelle
114
Early Evidence for 1 John 5: 7
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
italic 4th and 5th century.

629 in the 14th century.

429 in the 14th century (margin).
myelaine

dear designs...

What you are saying doesn't agree with the word of God.

deuteronomy 6:24-25

let me get this straight... what you are saying is essentially, I can't go to the OT for instruction on God's law. to hear and understand what He has to say on any matter I should go to someone else to interpret what He said...as if He wasn't capable of communicating clearly?

love michelle