Posts by myelaine

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Common Figure of Speech/Colloquialism?

by rstrats in

1. the messiah said that three nights would be involved with his time in the "heart of the earth".. 2. there are some who believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.. 3. of those, there are some who believe that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.. 4. however, those two beliefs allow for only 2 nights to be involved.. 5. to account for the discrepancy, some of the above say that the messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language of the time, i.e., that it is was common to forecast or say that a day or a night would be involved with an event when no part of the day or no part of the night could occur.. 6. in order for someone to legitimately say that it was common, they would have to know of more that 1 example to make that assertion.. 6. for the purpose of this topic, i would like to ask if there are any 6th day of the week crucifixion advocates who think the messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period?.

myelaine

dear rstrats...

Passover begins on the 14th at sundown and the feast of unleavened bread starts at sundown on the 15th. The feast of unleavened bread lasts 7 days and the first and last days are called sabbaths. They can fall on any day of the week. If passover started on wednesday evening, the next evening (thursday) would be the beginning of the feast of unleavened bread & a sabbath. Friday evening would start the regular weekly sabbath (2nd night) saturday evening: weekly sabbath ends (3rd night) saturday evening until sunday evening is the 1st day of the week according to the jewish calendar (resurrection "day").

Jesus would have had to be tried and crucified between the passover meal on wednesday evening and removed to the tomb before the evening of the 15th.(1st night)

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Looking for a link to the truth be told movie

by blownaway in

i see this movie in parts but not the whole thing.

any links?

myelaine

The link I posted was Gregorio's site. He's the one who made the truth be told video.

I agree with dubstepped, $6.99 isn't that much to pay for a documentary like this. Gregorio has spent countless hours working on it and finding translators so it can be released in many different languages. I was happy to help fund it's production and because of that I think it would be mighty nice if you would pay to download it at that low cost to you as a show of appreciation to Georgio, his crew and xjw's for their efforts to expose the WT org for their "religious" practices.

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Looking for a link to the truth be told movie

by blownaway in

i see this movie in parts but not the whole thing.

any links?

myelaine

The facebook page says available for download spring 2018

https://www.facebook.com/hereliesthetruth/

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

myelaine

OnTheWayOut...

We're done. I'm not into your game so I wont be reading the last post I see you've prepared.

Thanks anyway.

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

myelaine

Anyway...

dear Isambard Crater...

There are prophecies that you can read that have the needed "element" of measureability. Some prophecies have to be taken on faith as being fulfilled. The no bones broken as representitive of a perfect sacrificial lamb is not measurable. That and other prophecies would have been a great witnessing tool for people who were there and saw how the ministry and crucifixion of Jesus unfolded. I believe that is precisely why so many did accept Jesus as the expected Messiah, jews especially.

Please keep in mind that intellectual acceptance isn't the same as emotional acceptance. The latter being the type of acceptance that involves a level of commitment that you may not be inclined to pursue. You would be the best judge of that :)

love michelle

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

myelaine

dear JaniceA...

I'm sending you a pm if you'd like to hear a christian's response to your post. If you don't, that's okay too :)

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

myelaine

But you did argue my point about the holy texts. You twisted what I said in your argument but you certainly took the opportunity to argue my point.

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

myelaine

dear OnTheWayOut...

Since you took the time to reply:

I didn't make any claims that the author(s) of the bible weren't men.

I didn't make any claims that others besides christians and jews held any reverence for the bible, only that it was considered the holy text of the christians and jews.

Because you assure me you don't have a reading comprehension problem then is there some other reason why you don't answer straight forward questions, some other reason why you dodge them? For your convenience and just in case you are struggling with the aforementioned disability as well, I've made this diagram to help you answer my last question.

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

myelaine

You have a distinct lack of reading comprehension.

You have a nice evening too.

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

myelaine

So, the fact that the OT is and has been considered by most people (with an opinion) to have sprung from the hebrew ethos IS something you'd argue?

AND, the fact that the NT is and has been considered by most people (with an opinion) to have sprung from the christian ethos is something you'd argue?

The floor is open to you. Please move forward with your argument against those claims.