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i've read the bible and i don't recall satan himself actually ever doing anything evil or harmful... however i read many accounts where god killed or tormented countless thousands of people for arbitrary reasons.. aside from prophecies where jehover says that satan will hurt people in the future (hasn't happened yet, and no sign that it will happen), can anyone cite an example in the bible where satan actually harmed anyone?.
Funkyderek,
Who were they supposed to believe? Someone who said it would give them knowledge of good and evil or someone who said it would kill them? And what actually happened?
The Father told them both of these things. They chose to listen to a stranger instead of their Father.
michelle
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to all christians, or others, is there any proof of the promised messiah being jesus of nazareth and if so, how can you be sure if he existed?
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Jew,
Proverbs 29:18
Where there is revelation, the people cast off restraint: But happy is he who keeps the law.
that being:
1. There is one true God, regardless of his name.
2. Love the true God with all of your heart and mind and body.
3. Love your brother as you love God.
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i've read the bible and i don't recall satan himself actually ever doing anything evil or harmful... however i read many accounts where god killed or tormented countless thousands of people for arbitrary reasons.. aside from prophecies where jehover says that satan will hurt people in the future (hasn't happened yet, and no sign that it will happen), can anyone cite an example in the bible where satan actually harmed anyone?.
Little Toe,
Substitute Christ for Tree of Life...brilliant!
Sweetp0985,
God knew there was a difference in the countenance of His children(spiritually), and He called to A & E because they were ashamed. He approched them as a Father would approach a child.
FMZ,
You and I have the potential to be "like" our fathers.
Funkyderek,
The Genesis account seems to show a picture of a Father and two children. The Father fore-warned the children of what could happen if they touched the tree of good and evil, but like children(without complete knowledge) and impatience, they wanted to be like their Father. It was to their downfall, but they made the choice to disobey the knowledge and forsake the love that that knowledge was provided with. They had to suffer the consequenses, they couldn't eat from the tree of life any more. Therefore they no longer were able to commune with God the way that He intended. They became seperated from His all powerful protection and direction. They themselves chose to be "adult" (make life choices), without full knowledge. God set them out of the garden A. because He could not live beside them because of sin and B. so that they could live the life which they chose. And the rest, they say, is history.
michelle
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i've read the bible and i don't recall satan himself actually ever doing anything evil or harmful... however i read many accounts where god killed or tormented countless thousands of people for arbitrary reasons.. aside from prophecies where jehover says that satan will hurt people in the future (hasn't happened yet, and no sign that it will happen), can anyone cite an example in the bible where satan actually harmed anyone?.
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i've read the bible and i don't recall satan himself actually ever doing anything evil or harmful... however i read many accounts where god killed or tormented countless thousands of people for arbitrary reasons.. aside from prophecies where jehover says that satan will hurt people in the future (hasn't happened yet, and no sign that it will happen), can anyone cite an example in the bible where satan actually harmed anyone?.
Princess,
It is my understanding that God cannot live beside sin, therefore the very monent there was dissension amongst the angels, He had to get them the heck out of there. Thus Evil on earth and in (our "limited" concept of) heaven was "born"
doogie,
God let it go too.
frankiespeakin,
God gave the angels and mankind free will, that is the freedom to choose whatever and whomever they please. (did I apply the "m" properly for all you spelling Nazies?)
JimTX,
Gods point is love, obedience out of love. Thats why some people say God is good or God is love.
funkyderek,
I would like to answer your question when I have a thorough answer please, I am a little bogged down here(twin boys 19 mos).
God doesn't expect loyalty, He deserves it though. Your ass is His.
I feel like I am trying to defend a new religion or something.
michelle
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i've read the bible and i don't recall satan himself actually ever doing anything evil or harmful... however i read many accounts where god killed or tormented countless thousands of people for arbitrary reasons.. aside from prophecies where jehover says that satan will hurt people in the future (hasn't happened yet, and no sign that it will happen), can anyone cite an example in the bible where satan actually harmed anyone?.
Where in the account does it even mention that Satan was the serpent?
undercover,
The serpent was in opposition to God, the angel that took 1/3 of the angels with him was Satan(he was in opposition to God). So it stands to reason that If it wasn't Satan in the form of a snake, it was one of his angels. Still evil.
michelle
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i've read the bible and i don't recall satan himself actually ever doing anything evil or harmful... however i read many accounts where god killed or tormented countless thousands of people for arbitrary reasons.. aside from prophecies where jehover says that satan will hurt people in the future (hasn't happened yet, and no sign that it will happen), can anyone cite an example in the bible where satan actually harmed anyone?.
undercover,
It doesn't say that, I inferred it, based on my knowledge of God, my power to reason, and the text itself.
There were snakes in the garden for sure, but the mention of satanin the form of a snake doesn't occur until after he pronounced the earth and all that was on it good.
michelle
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i've read the bible and i don't recall satan himself actually ever doing anything evil or harmful... however i read many accounts where god killed or tormented countless thousands of people for arbitrary reasons.. aside from prophecies where jehover says that satan will hurt people in the future (hasn't happened yet, and no sign that it will happen), can anyone cite an example in the bible where satan actually harmed anyone?.
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i've read the bible and i don't recall satan himself actually ever doing anything evil or harmful... however i read many accounts where god killed or tormented countless thousands of people for arbitrary reasons.. aside from prophecies where jehover says that satan will hurt people in the future (hasn't happened yet, and no sign that it will happen), can anyone cite an example in the bible where satan actually harmed anyone?.
doogie,
A person would justifiably disipline a child as a consequence of their actions.
It would be unjust to punish a child as a consequence, that would be over-correction.
as a consequence of A & E action, God set them out on their own to learn disipline.
He didn't punish them with immediate death(on the spot) that would have been over-correction, and unjust. They were after all like innocent children(with sin)
michelle
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i've read the bible and i don't recall satan himself actually ever doing anything evil or harmful... however i read many accounts where god killed or tormented countless thousands of people for arbitrary reasons.. aside from prophecies where jehover says that satan will hurt people in the future (hasn't happened yet, and no sign that it will happen), can anyone cite an example in the bible where satan actually harmed anyone?.
undercover,
satan said, "surely you will not die" He was counting on their innocence. They were deceived by him. Knowledge of good and evil , if evil meant death then it stands to reason that good meant life forever without death. Without it being specifically mentioned. God pronounced the earth and all that was on it at the time, good.
Is that reasonable?
