myelaine
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Apocryphal Books of the Bible
by nativenyr23 inwas watching a history channel program last night (yeah, i'm a history channel geek!
) and was introduced for the first time in my life to the apocryphal books of the bible?!?!?!?!?
omg....fascinating.
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PERFORMANCE: the role of the Governing Body of mystical magicians
by Terry inthe truth about magic.
the truth about magic is that a magician jealously guards his secrets for a different reason than you might at first imagine.
it is the art of misdirection combined with the concealment of the important element or fact that sets you up to be fooled.. both a magician and a religious authority change the rules of reality.
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myelaine
dear Terry...
how were you "tricked"...I thought you said you liked the prestige of being a JW? I thought you said that you admired your friend Johnny's "knowledge" and you wanted it for yourself? I thought you said that you spent years honing your "craft"?
love michelle
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What used to worry you the most about the great trib and Armageddon?
by Julia Orwell ini worried most about losing my dear family, but i also had silly worries like, what would happen to my pets?
say i didn't have a chance to let the cats out, they would starve inside my house.
and what if people were so starving because of the big gt famine and stole my chickens!
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myelaine
dear Julia Orwell...
God loves people and animals.
The reports from the WTBTS about how armeggedon happens are false. The bible tells us that the warfare is spiritual not physical. Jesus came to win our hearts and minds to Himself. Even now the mission of the church is to win peoples hearts and minds to Him. Armegeddon is not literal fire coming down from God as is portrayed in that horrible paradise lost book (pg 208-209).
The "fire" actually starts here on earth. It is the same "fire" that was seen as tongues of fire on the heads of the first believers.
"When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance". (acts 2:1-4)
The fire is the Holy Spirit!...enabeling believers to spread the gospel. If you will read the book of joel, chapter 2 tells you how this "fire" spreads around the world...even gathering people (the nations) into "judgement"...Jesus, by the Holy Spirit will be winning hearts and minds to Himself. In the end the spiritual forces and sources of evil will be routed and caused to retreat by a cleansing of minds by the Holy Spirit. Then God will personally destroy the evil spirit forces that lead man astray ("fire" from heaven").
Having said that...there are HUMANS who are completely reprobate and the sight of such a world wide Pentecost might cause them to snap...however, I trust my God to stay their hand for this hallowed event. If there are people who lose their lives during this event I write: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on." Yes," says the Spirit, "that they may rest from their labours and their works follow them." rev. 14:13
love michelle
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BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!
by Terry inokay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.
i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.
because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.
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myelaine
From thence I went to another place, towards the west, unto the extremities of the earth. Where I beheld a fire blazing and running along without cessation, which intermitted in course neither by day nor by night; but continued always the same. I inquired saying, "What is this, which never ceases?" Then Raguel, one of the holy angels who were with me, answered, and said, "This blazing fire, which thou beholdest running towards the west, it that of all the luminaries of heaven." 1 enoch 23:1-5
love michelle
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Apocryphal Books of the Bible
by nativenyr23 inwas watching a history channel program last night (yeah, i'm a history channel geek!
) and was introduced for the first time in my life to the apocryphal books of the bible?!?!?!?!?
omg....fascinating.
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myelaine
it is vitally important to listen to the the Good Shepherd.
In His capacity as the Good Shepherd Jesus warned us about things that were happening. Jesus believed there were demons. He believed that there was a personal devil. He believed there was a fiery hell. He believed that unless you believed in Him as your saviour you would be condemned to that place. He warned that there would enter in among the flock wolves in sheeps clothing.
His sheep hear what HE says about these things...they don't listen to other peoples opinions. If someones opinion differs from what He has stated plainly and they pass on that opinion to others as truth then they are NOT good shepherds of the flock of God...they aren't even His sheep if they refuse to hear what He has to say about such things.
love michelle
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Apocryphal Books of the Bible
by nativenyr23 inwas watching a history channel program last night (yeah, i'm a history channel geek!
) and was introduced for the first time in my life to the apocryphal books of the bible?!?!?!?!?
omg....fascinating.
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myelaine
dear Terry...
you said: "The man MARCION is really the first successful promulgator of a "canon" of scripture. His Gnostic views almost swamped the early church with popularity. He was branded a heretic, naturally. The bible canon as we now know it was a REACTION to Marcion's canon."...
consider the reasons behind the church's effort to cannonize certain writings over others?...the churches mission was to promulgate the gospel of salvation...that was a direct command from Jesus Christ. Gnostic writings took the focus off of that truth by encouraging individual mysticism. This caused division among the church...it was a form of natural seperation which paul says is actually needed in the body of Christ so that the truth would be manifest. romans 16:17-18.
we see the same thing now happening in the church...with the focus not so much on the saving gospel but on individual interpretations of what the gospel "really" meant. (the emergant church etc.) the focus has switched from evangilization to a type of mysticism...again. Where are the shepherds?...look around the focus is on the hirelings who feed their own bellys. Jesus said if you REALLY love Him you would feed His sheep.
when leaders enter into dialogue about their own personal "Jesus" then the truth is lost and a kind of "cosmic christ" is brought to the fore..."here is the Christ, no, here is the Christ...
love michelle
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All Things Fulffilled In The1st Century
by maccauk11 inall things were fulfilled in the 1st century.it was obvious the messiah was talking to the people in that generation not a generation 2000 years later.. christianity has for 2000 years placed itself in the shoes of those 1st century beleivers and think all things pertainott hem today.when infact none of it does.
the prohecise of the messiah cmae true in the 1st century including revelation which is symbolic, metaphorical apocolyptic language showing all tha thad been done .
the kingdom is here.the king rules and has done for 2000 years.
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myelaine
dear cassuk11...
the text at Matthew 16:27-28 says "there are some standing here"... certainly John the revelator lived to see what he wrote...Jesus coming in His glory. Revelation 1:1, 7, 10, 19. These things we're written to show His servants...the letter was circulated, they would "see" Jesus coming.
Jesus said that the kingdom is in your midst. When He was here He was the physical representation of the kingdom. Now the born-again believer is a representative of the kingdom...the in dwelling Holy Spirit being the acting "government"(Isaiah 9:6-7)
I'm not sure what you mean when you say that God is finished dealing with man in the flesh...He's still dealing with me. Though scripture says He will not contend with man FOREVER...
love michelle
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Why Do You Come To This Site?
by minimus ini believe that this site, jwn, serves many purposes.
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some are here almost, out of need.. others are here because they want to know the latest in watchtower world.. still others come here for the entertainment.. why do you frequent this place?
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myelaine
Divine Providence
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BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!
by Terry inokay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.
i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.
because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.
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myelaine
dear Moses...
...for as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be...for wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqOxyqGiLeE
love michelle
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All Things Fulffilled In The1st Century
by maccauk11 inall things were fulfilled in the 1st century.it was obvious the messiah was talking to the people in that generation not a generation 2000 years later.. christianity has for 2000 years placed itself in the shoes of those 1st century beleivers and think all things pertainott hem today.when infact none of it does.
the prohecise of the messiah cmae true in the 1st century including revelation which is symbolic, metaphorical apocolyptic language showing all tha thad been done .
the kingdom is here.the king rules and has done for 2000 years.
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myelaine
dear cassuk11...
you said, in part, "So all things must have been fulfilled in the 1st cnetury. There are no types of dual fulfillments to come"...
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matthew 24:6 nations shall rise against nation...all these things must come to pass but the end is not yet.
acts 1:6 'Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, "Lord will You at this time restore the kingdom to israel?"'
acts 1:7 and He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority...but you shall be witnesses to Me...to the end of the earth."
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(joshua 6 :3 march around the city 6 days...)
(joshua 6:4 seven priest, seven trumpets, seven times and then the priest shall blow the trumpets)
--------------------the seventh seal----------------
(joshua 6:10 do not shout or make any noise until the day I say "shout")
(joshua 6:15 behold it came to pass on the seventh day...)
revelation 8:1 and there was silence in heaven...
--------------------the seventh trumpet------------
(joshua 6:16 shout for the LORD has given you the city...)
(joshua 6:17 now the city shall be doomed by the LORD to destruction)
revelation 11:15 the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ and He shall reign forever and ever!...
revelation 11:17-18 We give you thanks, O Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was and who is to come, because You have taken Your great power and reigned. The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come...
love michelle