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  The devil appears at JW convention in N.Y.

  by kool aid man06 in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn8t8pihina&feature=related

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  Beans

  That was hillarious! Way to stay in character even after the horns were off!
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  British 80's Classics

  by RAYZORBLADE in

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  2. entertainment

  i think i was lucky living here in toronto.. we had an incredible fm station called: cfny 102.1. also, across the lake and a bit inland, was buffalo, new york's magic 102.5 (wmjq-fm).. there was a time here / there, where british music was so rampant ... in a good way.. any bands or acts that you recall.. yes you brits; we know while at those silly assemblies, you were in your ford cortinas and vauxhalls, listening to "top of the pops".. i'll admit, i found that show, lame.

  over here (canada) we gave little known british bands, ample air time.. toronto-buffalo (1989-1991) was a hotbed of fm activity.. you brits...and other expatriates.

  lend us your ears!

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  Beans

  To many to mention! how about Q-Field!
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  ALERT FRON BETHEL (this may be it)

  by Hiddenwindow in

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  2. friends

  a prominent bethel elder shared this information with another elder: there are some bethel workers who have been invited to leave bethel, but are refusing to do so and are taking the society to court while still residing in brooklyn.

  if this is true, this could be the reason behind the sale of brooklyn property.

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  Beans

  I'm sure this has happened before and the bethelites will lose their case I am sure! Number one, they are volunteers and the only thing they will get out of it is that they will realize that there is little LOVE at the big house! And number two "WHO REALLY CARES"
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  what do you think of czeck beer?

  by stillajwexelder in

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  2. friends

  i think it is at least as good as german beer.

  just drinking some now

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  Beans

  Possibly the best beer in the world! I love it!

  Being the Canadian District Overbeer I recomend this to all faithful!
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  27,000 Known Jehovah`s Witness Pedophiles.???

  by OUTLAW in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  alright my techie friends..here is a new puzzle for you....i knew i had heard there were 27,000 known pedophiles..i thought it was from jr brown ..it still might be..alot of my buds on the board could`nt find the info that would support what i thought i had heard..i found some...go to google search engine..type in "number of jehovah`s witness pedophiles"..the number 27,000 comes up a few times in the list of subjects..you guys are much better at getting into the information than me.....sic-em!!.....lol!

  !...outlaw

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  Beans

  Looks like it has gone up by 2000 in the last few years, thats 27'000 to many!
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  It's a Wonderful Life (the movie)

  by zeroday in

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  2. friends

  i am 51 years old and have watched this movie every xmas as far back as i can remember.

  i was watching it last night and crying like a baby.

  oh yea, i was pretty well lit, that probably didn't help.

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  Beans

  My fav xmas movie, it's what christmas is all about and we all feel it! It's true what the song says, "It's the most wonderful time of the year"

  But ya gotta love "Christmas Vacation" as well!
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  Article in the Toronto Star

  by Beans in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  blood ban tests faith

  even as jehovah's witnesses reassess teachings legal challenges.

  may force change feb. 25, 2006.

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  Beans

  w87 3/1 15 'Upon the Watchtower I Am Standing'
  
  "Each article in both The Watchtower and Awake! and every page, including the artwork, is scrutinized by selected members of the Governing Body before it is printed. Furthermore, those who assist in writing articles for The Watchtower are Christian elders who appreciate the seriousness of their assignment. (Compare 2 Chronicles 19:7.) They spend many hours in researching the Bible and other reference material to make sure that what is written is the truth and that it faithfully follows the Scriptures. (Ecclesiastes 12:9, 10; 2 Timothy 1:13) It is not unusual for one magazine article—that you may read in 15 minutes—to take from two weeks to over a month to prepare".
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  Article in the Toronto Star

  by Beans in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  blood ban tests faith

  even as jehovah's witnesses reassess teachings legal challenges.

  may force change feb. 25, 2006.

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  Beans

  I'm saying it was printed on the date shown, also I can't believe it is just being posted now as I thought someone from T.O would have posted it up already.
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  Article in the Toronto Star

  by Beans in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  blood ban tests faith

  even as jehovah's witnesses reassess teachings legal challenges.

  may force change feb. 25, 2006.

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  Beans

  Blood ban tests faith Even as Jehovah's Witnesses reassess teachings legal challenges may force change Feb. 25, 2006. 01:00 AM RICHARD OSTLING ASSOCIATED PRESS
  NEW YORK—Jehovah's Witnesses are renowned for teaching that Jesus Christ is not God and that the world as we know it will soon end.

  But another unusual belief causes even more entanglements — namely, that God forbids blood transfusions even when patients' lives are at stake.

  The doctrine's importance was underscored last month when elders lead more than 98,000 congregations worldwide reciting a new five-page blood directive from their headquarters. There are about 155,000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Canada, according to the 2001 census.

  The tightly disciplined sect believes the Bible forbids transfusions, though specifics have gradually been eased over the years.

  Raymond Franz, a defector from the all-powerful Governing Body that sets policies for the faith, thinks leaders hesitate to go further fearing total elimination of the ban would expose the organization to millions of dollars in legal liability over past medical cases.

  The Witnesses have opposed transfusions of whole blood since 1945.

  A later pronouncement also barred transfusions of blood's "primary components," meaning red cells, white cells, platelets and plasma.

  An announcement in 2000 in the official Watchtower magazine, however, said that because of ambiguity in the Bible, individuals are free to decide about therapies using the biological compounds that make up those four blood components, such as gamma globulin and clotting factors that counteract hemophilia.

  The new directive could create confusion about these compounds, known as blood "fractions."

  Without noting the 2000 change, the new directive tells parents to consider this: "Can any doctor or hospital give complete assurance that blood or blood fractions will not be used in treatment of a minor?"

  Aside from the new directive, a footnote in the Witnesses standard brochure, How Can Blood Save Your Life?, mentions the 2000 article on fractions — but then omits its contents.

  By coincidence, the new directive follows some heavy criticism of the blood transfusion policy from lawyer Kerry Louderback-Wood of Fort Myers, Fla., writing in the Journal of Church and State, published by Baylor University.

  Louderback-Wood, who was raised a Witness but now has no religious affiliation, accuses her former faith of giving "inaccurate and possibly dishonest arguments" to believers facing crucial, serious medical decisions.

  Louderback-Wood complains that many Witnesses and physicians aren't given clear instruction about their faith's blood transfusion policy, particularly on the subject of fractions.

  She's no disinterested bystander. The lawyer says her mother died from severe anemia in 2004 because local elders didn't realize hemoglobin is permitted.

  Louderback-Wood learned that hemoglobin was allowed from the website of Associated Jehovah's Witnesses for Reform on Blood, which was founded in 1997 by dissenting local elders, eight of whom served on hospital liaison committees that advise Witnesses and physicians.

  The founder of Associated Jehovah's Witnesses, speaking on condition of anonymity to protect his standing in a faith that does not tolerate dissent, says liaison committee members know about the revised teachings, but most Witnesses automatically refuse all forms of blood without consulting the committees.

  Physicians are often ill-informed about Witness beliefs, he says.

  Louderback-Wood thinks the faith is subject to legal liability for misinforming adherents, which to her knowledge is an untested theory in U.S. courts.

  Related issues arise in a court case in Alberta, however, related to the death of teenage leukemia patient Bethany Hughes.

  Witnesses headquarters refused an Associated Press request to interview an expert on blood beliefs. Instead, General Counsel Philip Brumley issued a prepared statement rejecting Louderback-Wood's "analysis and conclusions" in general.

  "Any argument challenging the validity of this religious belief inappropriately trespasses into profoundly theological and doctrinal matters," Brumley stated.

  The Watchtower's 1945 ban said "all worshippers of Jehovah who seek eternal life in his new world" must obey.

  Such edicts are regarded as divine law, since the Governing Body uniquely directs true believers. Violators risk ostracism by family and friends.

  A subsequent Watchtower pronouncement forbade storage of a patient's own blood for later transfusion. In all, Associated Jehovah's Witnesses lists 20 shifts and refinements in blood-related rules over the years.

  At the core of their blood beliefs, Witnesses cite Acts 15:29, where Jesus' apostles agreed that gentile converts should "keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood." The Witnesses also cite parts of Genesis and Leviticus.

  Judaism and Christianity have always understood these scriptures to ban blood-eating for nourishment. This underlies Judaism's kosher procedures to extract blood from meat, which Witnesses do not follow. Christianity eventually decided the rule was temporary.

  Experts assume that Raymond Franz's late uncle, Frederick Franz, who served anonymously as the Witnesses chief theologian, decided those passages cover blood transfusions. But Raymond Franz raises questions about the blood policy in his book In Search of Christian Freedom. Among them:

• Why forbid a patient's own stored blood yet permit components derived from large amounts of donated and stored blood?

• Why allow organ transplants, which introduce far more foreign white blood cells than transfusions?

• The Witnesses forbid plasma, which is mostly water, but allow the components in it that provide therapy.

  So what's the point of banning plasma?

  Advances in bloodless surgery have reduced many of the medical dangers for Witnesses, but Associated Jehovah's Witnesses maintains that the blood policy is a life-threatening problem elsewhere.

  Louderback-Wood says she'll be contented if her protest saves one child's life.