i was watching the news last night.
the latest word from the war front is that we should be able to peaceably work out our differences with north korea.
as humiliating as it will be for us to kiss north korea's ass, we will do so because they do have the ability to nuke our west coast.
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I am certainly not a saddam supporter but he is a very popular leader in Iraq .
That is for sure!
Especially when you are elected "unopposed" and are willing to assassinate anyone that speaks out against you, or your policies. Even family members.
US a bully? Sometimes, yes, and sometimes, no.
Andee
Edited by - BeautifulGarbage on 2 January 2003 11:41:11
archaeologists in rome yesterday unveiled a new find: a scroll that appears to be part of a late roman discussion forum.
the topic under discussion was "is rome a bvlly?
", and we are priviliged to reproduce the first few posts below:.
When in Rome......
Funny!
Andee
simon- the referee smurf .
valis, the overbeer smurf .
comf .
Very cute and funny thread!
Andee
you know most of us spend a large part of our lives in a religion that allowed for no independant thinking.
we were taught and taught others that ours was the only way and anyone who thought differently was going to be judged unworthy and die.
anyone who presumed to think outside the box was branded "apostate" or not good association.
Ideas sould be enhancements not constraints; they should be tested to become strong - not hidden and protected
This jumped off at the page at me. Excellent!
And just the complete opposite existence for a JW.
Andee
BTW: Happy New Year to you too! Heee Hawwww!
you know most of us spend a large part of our lives in a religion that allowed for no independant thinking.
we were taught and taught others that ours was the only way and anyone who thought differently was going to be judged unworthy and die.
anyone who presumed to think outside the box was branded "apostate" or not good association.
Xena,
I just wanted to clarify that I certainly agree with the spirit of your post! To me it's message of "live and let live" (Just as long as an innocent party is not being hurt) is one that could use more application around XJW boards.
Danny,
We collectively have paid a tremendous price for his 'harmless' ramblings.
Indeed.
Andee
BTW: Happy New Year Xena and Danny!
my most painful confession
note to simon: i will use some expletives, but i hope that they will be retained as this is intended to be an otherwise civil and thoughtful post to all my fellow ex-jws.
please read on, as this is most painful.
Jim,
Please take care. Your health should be your first priority.
I will miss you tremendously.
Andee
you know most of us spend a large part of our lives in a religion that allowed for no independant thinking.
we were taught and taught others that ours was the only way and anyone who thought differently was going to be judged unworthy and die.
anyone who presumed to think outside the box was branded "apostate" or not good association.
Depends on what it is I am suppose to tolerate.
Though because I disagree with a belief, that does not give me the right to be cruel with my expression of opposition.
Harmless? Well, that is another matter.
From a distance, the WTS seems like just another religion. A little odd with their beliefs in no celebration of holidays and refusal of blood. But, once the facade of conservative dress and heavy bookbags are scratched off the surface a much more sinister picture begins to form and the dirty WTS underbelly is exposed and can no longer be considered "harmless".
Andee
here is what we see from the deck, at our beach house in hawaii.. .
if you want to see more, this is the web site.
http://www.haleo.net we are in the upstairs unit.
40 years! WOW!
Congratulations, Mulan and Big Red!
What a great place to spend it!
Andee
what are some of your favorite jw catch phrases?.
"food at the proper time".
"spiritualy weak".
Imperfect. Especially, Imperfect Men.
I detest that word. It's the rank and files excuse to shug away every wrong prediction, bad decision, and doctrinal flip-flop, that the WTS has ever made.
Anyone with half a brain does not expect people to be perfect. However, I know for myself, I expect people to be DECENT. That means, when an individual, or individuals, has been transgressed against, responsibility is taken and an apology is expressed.
Andee
most of my jw experience was as a kid, and i remember going out in service on holidays, christmas in particular.. number one, it sucked because most people were there, and boy did i love not-at-homes.
they would answer, there would be food cooking, there was a full house with relatives and friends, and as you talked to the householder, everyone else in the house wanted to see who was there.
most of the time they treated us ok, but once in a while you would hear some person in the background make a snide remark.
I know that there are many that share similar memories, Freedom96.
Luckily, my parents weren't "very good" witnesses. My grandmother, who lived with us, was the JW zealot. We had no Xmas, but we didn't go out in service. What I remember as a kid, was how quiet, and abandoned, our street was because everyone was inside enjoying the morning with their families.
Because we weren't active, I really didn't have any JW friends. But, I was allowed to play with worldly kids. Xmas day, no one could play. I remember the door of my best friend's house. It had a huge plastic picture of Santa Claus on it that covered the whole thing. I used to stare at it after I would ring the bell waiting for someone to come to the door. Because of being a JW, I never believed in Santa Claus, but I would wonder what that was like. Wanting to participate in the celebration, yet thinking I'm going to be kid puree for even having such thoughts.
Two words would describe those days: Isolating and lonely.
Andee
