Posts by kwintestal

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so long and thanks for all the shoes

by doogie in

jw
friends

well, folks, this will be my last post here on the board.

it?s only been a short time but i feel i?ve gotten what i needed and now its time to move on.

thank you all very much for your support these last couple of months; they?ve been monumental and necessary but extremely rough as well.

But Jesus Would Approve of Disfellowshipping as being a part of LOVE!!!

by Sweetp0985 in

how we learn to love

love .

is indispensable

Don't be sorry about venting. It helps, it really does. There's many here that do, and that's one of the reason these discussion groups work. We lean on each other to get through it. A lot here, including myself are where you are. Sometimes though its a matter of taking a stand. Sometimes it takes saying to your family, "You know what? This is who I am! Take me or leave me." It's not easy, but it's not healthy to be constanly put through guilt trips about not getting back into things and not doing what you want and need to do. It's taking away from the freedom that you found you're enjoying.

I regret getting baptized. I was in grade 7. What the hell does someone in grade 7 know about life? Jesus waited until he was 30. There was a good reason for that. It set an example. Kids shouldn't get baptised, there's too much going on in their heads and bodies to make that kind of commitment, and that's the start of the problem. Kids are pressured by their families to get baptised, and when they figgure out what they really want to do with their lives, it's too late. It's all part of the control. IT IS SICK! And you know what? It won't change anytime soon. As for the ones that never got baptised, ya, it pisses me off that they're welcomed back with open arms and a big show, but at the same time I'm happy for them at least that's one less person that has to go through what I went through.

You don't have to tuck your tail and go back to the JW rules. It's your right to decide how you're going to live your life. Hopefully your family will come to understand and accept that. Until then stay strong and here's a hug.

Kwin

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Still have question....Please help.

by kwintestal in

jw
friends

after a year of inactivity, research and soul searching, i still have one lingering question to the posters out there.

what are alternate uses of wt books?

i currently use 4 bound volumes to hold up a couch with a broken leg, we're getting a new couch, so there's 4 back into circulation.

kwintestal

soaks up alot of the stink

That's why my wife keeps the mags in the washroom! Now I get it!

Kwin

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But Jesus Would Approve of Disfellowshipping as being a part of LOVE!!!

by Sweetp0985 in

how we learn to love

love .

is indispensable

kwintestal

I just think they take what they want from the bible and use it just to control people and destroy families

I have to agree with you on the first part of that but I really don't think that their intent is to destroy families, however they are quite aware that the latter is a byproduct of the former. Quite the unpleasant byproduct at that because everyone close to the DF'd person loses. It kills these ones inside because the org has forced them to choose between God and the DF'd person. It's an impossible position to be in.

I am in complete agreement with you on Jesus and how he delt with people. One of the things that still baffles me is how Paul came along and set all these standards that Jesus never did. Seems similar to Rutherford becomming prez. of WTS, and the drastic changes that the WTS took.

It seems like a topic that really touches your heart. I know it does mine and many other posters. Thank you very much for shareing, and letting others know that we're not alone that feeling that the DF'ing process is wrong.

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Still have question....Please help.

by kwintestal in

jw
friends

after a year of inactivity, research and soul searching, i still have one lingering question to the posters out there.

what are alternate uses of wt books?

i currently use 4 bound volumes to hold up a couch with a broken leg, we're getting a new couch, so there's 4 back into circulation.

kwintestal

I have some with mould on them from sitting in a damp basement. I could donate those to science. Maybe they could be of some good after all.

Kwin

Searching for common ground.

by kwintestal in

jw
friends

my wife and i recently discovered that since i'm no longer active in wt stuff, and she is, that we have very little in common to do socially.

we've decided to pick up a mutual hobby for something to do.

i suggested researching the lies of the wt, but alas, she wasn't interested in that (right now anyway).

kwintestal

My wife and I recently discovered that since I'm no longer active in WT stuff, and she is, that we have very little in common to do socially. We've decided to pick up a mutual hobby for something to do. I suggested researching the lies of the WT, but alas, she wasn't interested in that (right now anyway). So those out there with spouses still in, what do you do to find that common ground? What activities have you found that build your relationship, yet don't step on either's views?

Kwin

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Still have question....Please help.

by kwintestal in

jw
friends

after a year of inactivity, research and soul searching, i still have one lingering question to the posters out there.

what are alternate uses of wt books?

i currently use 4 bound volumes to hold up a couch with a broken leg, we're getting a new couch, so there's 4 back into circulation.

kwintestal

An image to worship! HA. that is so funny!

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"Worldy Girlfriend or JW Girlfriend... Help Me Choose" - ONE YEAR LATER.

by Confucious in

just under a year ago, i started this thread... .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/61598/1.ashx .

i started to date this jw girlfriend.

kwintestal

I'm glad for you Confusious. I hope you are happy with the choices you've made. I'm sure they haven't been easy. franklin j made a good point,

whatever would you have in common with a JW girlfiend? What could you possibly share together?

It's been a real strain on my marriage since I took my stand against the WT. Before we'd do meetings, sometimes service together, but now we don't have that. We're now struggling to find things to do together because we don't have that. My wife has accepted that I'm not going back but she does bug me now and then to go. But what we are really doing right now is struggling to find common ground. Something that won't interfere with either of our beliefs, but that we can do together, or as a family. Actually, I think I'll start a thread on that subject.

Kwin

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Still have question....Please help.

by kwintestal in

jw
friends

after a year of inactivity, research and soul searching, i still have one lingering question to the posters out there.

what are alternate uses of wt books?

i currently use 4 bound volumes to hold up a couch with a broken leg, we're getting a new couch, so there's 4 back into circulation.

kwintestal

e-Bay....good will...

Do I really want to inflict others with this curse?

Kwin

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But Jesus Would Approve of Disfellowshipping as being a part of LOVE!!!

by Sweetp0985 in

how we learn to love

love .

is indispensable

kwintestal

You know I find it funny that they always show pictures of someone being welcomed back to the org. after being df'd, but you never see pics of someone walking into the hall, and everyone stares at him and avoinding him like the plague. That is what ends up happening after all, but I guess that it's not sugar coated enough for the new recruits. I feel that they do this to control the group, and to FORCE conformity. First they isolate you, by telling you that all your "worldly friends" are evil and to be abandoned, then they abandon you. You are therefore pissed, attempt to go back to, your once evil, friends only to find that they are still pissed about you abandonning them. You therefore are completly isolated and have no choice but to return to the org, beg the men of the org for forgiveness, "I've repented!" and again join the group. It's like a whirlpool, once you get sucked in, you got to fight like hell to get out. Some manage, others just give up and go with the flow and stay in. The WTS likes those who stay in.

Kwin