to get a break from my jw parents when i was 17 (i'm 25 now) i took an apartment of my own.
i was working full time and going to school.
a busy schedule that allowed me to miss meetings without them constantly hounding me.
:The elders basically singled me out because I was the only one of my friends with a car and dubbed me the ring leader of the Slutty Girl Movement) :
It's hard to be a leader... you should be proud...lol
I was also the "ring leader" of the young brothers at the hall. It was stupid because I would get talked to for everything they did wrong. It's like the elders wanted to make an example of me so bad, they were going to pin other people's "wrongdoings" on me.
any men above the ground?
could men below the ground (i.e.
written almost 900 years after the time of moses, and about 400
What is the Matrix??
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i've read the bible and i don't recall satan himself actually ever doing anything evil or harmful... however i read many accounts where god killed or tormented countless thousands of people for arbitrary reasons.. aside from prophecies where jehover says that satan will hurt people in the future (hasn't happened yet, and no sign that it will happen), can anyone cite an example in the bible where satan actually harmed anyone?.
I think the act of God creating a tree with "forbidden fruit" was evil. It seems like he set man up to fail. It's a game I don't care to play.
i was just wondering for thos that have been raised within and then were df'ed ... did you return before giving it up for good?.
i grew up with the terror of post vnam and 1975 being the end or the end being just around the cornor, i was df'ed, thought long and hard.
and returned anyway.
Never made it to a Wiscon congregation... Always attended in Chicago. I also went to a few meeting in the Western Suburbs of Chicago, but that was at the very end. It's good to meet you though. We may have attended a District Convention together. Last Convention I went to was held a Comisky Park.(US Cellur Field)
i was just wondering for thos that have been raised within and then were df'ed ... did you return before giving it up for good?.
i grew up with the terror of post vnam and 1975 being the end or the end being just around the cornor, i was df'ed, thought long and hard.
and returned anyway.
I was never DF'd... but it's still hard to completely break away. I have not been to the hall in 6 years, except to see my uncles first public discourse. I have lots of family still in, and I'm sure you already know the amount of pressure they put on you to come back. It has only been over the past couple of months that I have decided that I will never return. There is still some fear, after all the organization does a lot to instil it in you, but my mind is made up. One and done. I did it once, never again.
the post about jehovah sending panties through the mail is funny.
it reminds me of all the stories at the assemblies and conventions of zealous witnesses rewarded for their dedication.
i never believed any of them.
The post about Jehovah sending panties through the mail is funny. It reminds me of all the stories at the assemblies and conventions of zealous witnesses rewarded for their dedication. I never believed any of them. They all seemed too outragous. Then there were the ones that were supposed to scare us into obedience.
I remember one in particular. I was about 9 years old, and a brother told a story about two young brothers (teenage) that went to go see "The Exorcist" at the movies, or something like that, the night before an assembly. The next day, as they were walking into the assembly hall, they started floating off the ground. I remember thinking, "yeah right", but being scared anyway. Since then I've always thought it would be nice to KNOW just one person they claim to be talking about. If you ask me, there's some guy sitting at Bethel making all this shit up.
the "why do animals die" thread got me thinking about the dinosaurs.
why would god create a species of animals and then completely destroy them or allow them to be destroyed.
would he do that to humans too?.
Humor me for a minute here...
When I was in grammer school, I had an idea about dinosaurs. We were learning about the relationship between plants and animals. Animals breath oxygen, plants breath carbon dioxide. Each one released exactly what the other needed. I thought it would take a lot of animals to keep up with all the plants on earth when first created. But maybe God created giant dinosaurs to establish a balance in the atmosphere. The balance was established, then they died (Never really thought about how... I remember a mag or brochure saying they may have died in the flood, I think). Of course at that time I already had many JW doctrines running through my head, and I was only about 10 years old. Hadn't given it much thought since, but wanted to share my thoughts.
i am wondering... how did you first come across this board?
..... searching the web?
a friend?
I was looking for proof that Jeruselem did not fall in 607...
Found plenty of info I needed on that, but also came across a thread about it in here. I spent about 4 or 5 days reading posts, then joined. That was 2 days ago.
i've been reading many threads here in the past few days.
feels good to know other people think like me.
i'll give you a little background on me.
Thanks for the warm welcome and the encouragement about my dad. I look forward to sharing my experiences with all of you.
i've been reading many threads here in the past few days.
feels good to know other people think like me.
i'll give you a little background on me.
Hello everyone,
I've been reading many threads here in the past few days. Feels good to know other people think like me. I'll give you a little background on me. I'll try to be brief.
I was born into the catholic religion. At age 7 my mother became a JW. She took me and my two sisters with her. My dad was an "opposer" for about 5 years until my mother caught him cheating on her for the ump-teenth time. As a condition of her not divorcing him, he had to become a JW. He agreed.
Now here we are, a "happy" christian family. Only my dad never really became "spiritually strong". My parents marraige remained unhappy. The elders always put the blame on my mom. If you ask me, she should have left him.
I was baptized at age 12. I was an "exemplary" youth and was given many privelages in the congregation. It wasn't until I was about 16 that I started to have doubts.
Being that I was the "ring-leader" of the youths in the congregation, the elders became bent on making an example out of me. Harrasing me about my haircuts, dress, and shaving. They thought my hair was too long, then too short. My suits were too trendy... and my newly grown "peach fuzz" needed to be shaved. That was just the beggining. I have tons of strories that will have to wait for another time. None of that made sense to me, so being the "bad-ass" that I am, I questioned them. From that moment on, nothing was ever the same.
I abandoned the idea that everything the elders said was right. That they had direction from JAH. I began to feel the were just uneducated fools, holding onto a meaningless position of power in the organization, because they were too dumb to advance anywhere else. They recognized that and tried to keep me quiet. They didn't have a chance to act, though, as I just walked away from the organization. I know they were dying to disfellowship me, as the stirred up dirt on me every way they could. Finally they found out about an experience I had with a few sisters from another congregation. They tried to set up a judicial comittee and wrote letters to me requiring me to attend. I never even responded. It was irrelevant. I could care less about "being punished".
Fast forward to a year ago. My father is on his death bed. He slips into a coma, but we all continue talking to him, and my mother (who is now divorced from him, though adultary was not involved... go figure) plays kingdom melodies. I came to the point that I wanted him to just let go and stop fighting death. So I said to him "Dad, look over there. There's paradise. Lets rest and we'll go together in the morning". I would say he died about ten minutes later. I've hated myself for saying that, feeling strongly that I lied to him.
As a result, I now feel to need to gather as much information as is required to rescue the rest of my family from holding on to a false hope. I think I have a seed planted with the year Jeruselem fell. My mom and uncle can't find 607. That's another story for later.
I only have two problems now. First my mother in holding on to the "composite sign" in 1914. And secondly, she will eventually ask, as I am now asking... What now? WTS is false, but what is true?
