It's danish
beroea
some years ago when i did some reseach on the early history of jw and life of russll i read some quote about the cross and crown symbol.. one of them was about how russells attention was brought to the cross and crown symbol by a fellowbeliver.
i think one qoute was from an early zions watchtower, but i'm not sure.
are there somebody who can help me with this quote?.
It's danish
beroea
some years ago when i did some reseach on the early history of jw and life of russll i read some quote about the cross and crown symbol.. one of them was about how russells attention was brought to the cross and crown symbol by a fellowbeliver.
i think one qoute was from an early zions watchtower, but i'm not sure.
are there somebody who can help me with this quote?.
Der er blevet skrevet meget om dette emner på diverse JW WEB-sider. Teorier om at Russell skulle være tilknyttet tempelriderne har dog aldrig kunne bevises selv om han brugte forskellige symboler fra dette univers på Vagttårnet og nogle tidligere bøger der endvidere har været præget af RA sollogo (The winged sun).
Så hvilken betydning der skal lægges på dette er uvist. Hans gravsted er præget af nogle af de samme symboler samt pyramide aftegninger.
Hilsen en "JW still in"
beroea
My wife is nice too
Beroea
Why?
Beroea
Is this your last answer?
Beroea
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Beroea
jw are convinced that good people are only inside jw no one else is good and facing salvation.
jesus said that the wheat and the non-wheat were growing together to the end!
are true good persons a special area of human being or just individuals showing inner qualities?
JW are convinced that good people are only inside JW – no one else is good and facing salvation. Jesus said that the wheat and the non-wheat were growing together to the “end!” Are true good persons a special area of human being or just individuals showing inner qualities?
And if individual qualities are enough is the faith PERSONAL or NON-PRIVATE?
If personal what does that mean? If NON-PRIVATE what does that demand?
Beroea
A voice from Europe
in 1975 jws had several things going for them.
the ex-jws that left because of earlier prophetic failures had no real way to reach us.
most jws were of a newer generation, eager for something to happen given the times we lived in.
Good post and opinion. I don’t think the GB are afraid of the ex JW. It doesn’t play a big role in the congregations. JE are well learned to refuse to listen to those. What scare them most are bad publicity. That’s what makes them think a little bit. But most are so old that the thinking ability is close to zero. So I agree that they have stopped think of renewing anything.
Beroea
A voice of Europe
here in the west/central/north part of europe jw have facing general declining in bout number of publishers and baptises during the last 10 years or so.
a lot of congregations are down to 40-50 persons (with 100-150 sitting places) and the publics service are without any kind of result.
if someone gets a bible study with someone new this person is close to brain-dead.
Here in the west/central/north part of Europe JW have facing general declining in bout number of publishers and baptises during the last 10 years or so. A lot of congregations are down to 40-50 persons (with 100-150 sitting places) and the publics service are without any kind of result. If someone gets a bible study with someone new this person is close to brain-dead. When a bible study is started with a normal person with just average abilities of thinking this study will soon stop. The person will reject the JW doctrines and claim of a sole role as true Christians after 2-3 month. That’s my experience.
In normal the JWs start as children of JW parents so the life is planned from the beginning. It’s not a question of making some kind of decisions - only follow the normal and expected rote.
So most JW a facing a non-result effect of the preaching works and times go on and still no end as promised so many times. We stop thinking of the reason of this. Just like the lemmings we went on to the cliff edge. Most have stop thinking long ago. But life has to be filed with something. Maybe just to forget and prove that we are together. There are ”we” and ”they”. So we stick to each other and look at others with a little bit of anger and mistrust. Building enemy pictures are what make identities and prove we are the chosen ones.
This kind of “stick together” became the social life and identity of many. The social life is the light way of living and small talks. The purpose of being a Christians are long time gone. A lot of JW are filling the life with this “party line” to full fill the lost of real meaning of Christianity.
So I expect that the “party line” will grown and many JW stick to the BORG only by social reasons not religious. JW will by that be able to survive religions crises and scandals. That’s why an UN case doesn’t move anything in general. People have no other place to go and don’t want either. They want to stay with the social JW club. The religious aspect will play a smaller role in the future.
Beorea
A voice of Europe
so nice to be evil.
our family had the pleasure to have a visit of a pioneer sister very dear to us.
she uses to study with our 2 children.
So nice to be ”evil”
Our family had the pleasure to have a visit of a pioneer sister – very dear to us. She uses to study with our 2 children. In the past the article of WT or the subject of the book study. I demand a change of that to some Bible discussions and reading instead with a lot more outcome to my children. I - still serving as elder - get her normal respect of “my role” and “leadership”. So she listens when I speak. Some times during dinner – because she normally stays for that – we begin to discuss some JW matters. I normally don’t say much. My thoughts are my own and I don’t want to be a reason of conflict in her mind. But sometimes I’m not just able to keep my mouth shout.
This night was one of those moments. She begins to show some kind of “self thinking” - even very young. This means she thinks of justice and basis human behaviour.
During the dinner the discussions came to some Bible verses and the 237 uses of the Tetragrammaton JHVH in the New Testament and others things about the NWT of the Bible. Finally we came to the conclusion that a translation of the Bible must be free of any personal or religious touch and must be true to the original text. We didn’t say that direct but the thoughts of all were that the NWT didn’t fulfil that basis demand.
I propose her to go to the congregation to get the Diaglott, The Kingdom Interlinear and other Bible translation and read for her self. IT’S NICE TO BE A LITTLE “EVEL” SOMETIMES”
She begins to think. That’s the start of understanding.
Beroea
A voice of Europe