WRONG. There is no women's nature and by chance there is one it doesn't make women be "true" or less promiscuous . Get to know some women as friends...not as potential partners, and I think you'll see differently.
This is my point. Everyone thinks there's some natural thing that happens that makes women more loving, more peaceful, less promiscuous, less shallow...and I say as a woman this isn't so. I was taught that I wasn't supposed to be certain things....but as women we're taught that we aren't supposed to accept certain things in our nature, we aren't to accept things that go against society's view on our nature.
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What exactly is not allowed
by Jdarley inok, my bf is witness, and i am studying to become baptized.
but he and i have sexual control issues that we are trying to work on.
(we cant keep our hands off eachother and control our desires).
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Black History Month? Is it separation or just realistic?
by under74 inso i got to thinking after seeing 60 minutes this last week.
morgan freeman said black history month is "ridiculous" and pointed out that it keeps african-americans seperated from other americans.
i guess my thinking is that the school text books haven't really changed since i was in school.
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That's a good link and good information Josie....
What I mean is as far as the original post goes, that I posted, it's not really about that (what people are called) ----unless you want to show everyone has been represented equally?????
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Double Standard with gender???
by under74 inok--this came up because of another thread.
it didn't really belong on the thread in question so i thought i'd start a new one.
my thinking is that there is a big double standard not just because of religious beliefs but because people are taught that-- men are more sexual than women, men think more about sex than women, men take advantage of this way of thinking and women don't.
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serendipity- glad you found the thread.
hmmm...I'm glad you stated all aren't the same. I know I've read about brain differences BUT I haven't seen them. I've seen differences but I know what I've seen can be attributed to learning, not nature.
I'm not saying there is a wrong or right here. Just stating what I think and know first hand. While some of it is clouded by having people tell me how I should feel as a woman, I can honestly tell you now that as a female having my closest friends being male for years now...I don't see much of a difference. Also, that being said, I've been told (because I'm female) I should feel a certian way about things because I'm female....I don't. I don't think I need to get married. I don't feel the need to have kids. I think a lot of the crap I thought about at 12 was taught to me as ytadition or part of nature was really more paternal or christian mindset.
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What exactly is not allowed
by Jdarley inok, my bf is witness, and i am studying to become baptized.
but he and i have sexual control issues that we are trying to work on.
(we cant keep our hands off eachother and control our desires).
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spectrum- learned or nature? BTW since this got off topic I started another thread.
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Double Standard with gender???
by under74 inok--this came up because of another thread.
it didn't really belong on the thread in question so i thought i'd start a new one.
my thinking is that there is a big double standard not just because of religious beliefs but because people are taught that-- men are more sexual than women, men think more about sex than women, men take advantage of this way of thinking and women don't.
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OK--this came up because of another thread. It didn't really belong on the thread in question so I thought I'd start a new one.
My thinking is that there is a big double standard not just because of religious beliefs but because people are taught that-- men are more sexual than women, Men think more about sex than women, Men take advantage of this way of thinking and women don't. Women get hurt by having sex without commitment and men don't. All men think the same way...and all women think the same way.
There's also this thing about women being more peaceful/less violent than men...maybe this is a different subject all together but I think it to be false. I guess I'm just tired of all the stereotypes, although I know much of it's learned and a lot of it comes from other women....I'm not blaming any one gender for it...I blame both in my US society. -
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What exactly is not allowed
by Jdarley inok, my bf is witness, and i am studying to become baptized.
but he and i have sexual control issues that we are trying to work on.
(we cant keep our hands off eachother and control our desires).
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I understand what you're say serindipity...I'll just say in short because this isn't my thread and I don't want it to get too much off topic--
I understand your statement- you bringing up your daughter has to do with your experience...and that's got everything to do with my opinion. -
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Black History Month? Is it separation or just realistic?
by under74 inso i got to thinking after seeing 60 minutes this last week.
morgan freeman said black history month is "ridiculous" and pointed out that it keeps african-americans seperated from other americans.
i guess my thinking is that the school text books haven't really changed since i was in school.
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ya, but...again, the thread is about a month dedicated to a certain part of history and whether or not or how it can be integrated into common US history....
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What exactly is not allowed
by Jdarley inok, my bf is witness, and i am studying to become baptized.
but he and i have sexual control issues that we are trying to work on.
(we cant keep our hands off eachother and control our desires).
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under74
"I guess the "extra" concern I have for my daughters stems from the obvious biological consequences of premarital sex.
Plus, I know how men think. My daughter doesn't. Sex (generally) has different meaning to women and men. My daughter will likely associate it with a deep and meaningful level of commitment and intimacy. Many of her possible suitors will associate it with scoring points, and release of tension. Unfortunately, women like all people tend to think that everyone else thinks like them. I have found that many young women have experienced a great deal of heartache because they mistakenly applied and hoped that their assumptions about the sex act would be shared by their partner."
No, see it's just what you've stated. There seems to be this idea that females think totally different than males. If they do think sex is more than what you've stated most men think about it, my thinking is they're taught to...it doesn't have anything to do with biology. Just in the same way women are taught to believe they have a biological clock or that they have to get married in order to fulfill some part of womanhood.
BTW- I'm female and think sex is sex. Although I was brought up to believe it was a promise. I'm not easy in any way shape or form....I just think that men seem to think there a these differences for their own preservation or so they won't have to think of the women surrounding them as sexual beings or as individuals with minds of there own.
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Black History Month? Is it separation or just realistic?
by under74 inso i got to thinking after seeing 60 minutes this last week.
morgan freeman said black history month is "ridiculous" and pointed out that it keeps african-americans seperated from other americans.
i guess my thinking is that the school text books haven't really changed since i was in school.
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again rebel8....this isn't about whether or not you call someone by their skin color. I think it's more of a history/documentation/education issue rather than skin tone and what you call another person you're describing--as far as this thread goes.
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What exactly is not allowed
by Jdarley inok, my bf is witness, and i am studying to become baptized.
but he and i have sexual control issues that we are trying to work on.
(we cant keep our hands off eachother and control our desires).
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So....are you guys (serindipity, CYR, Ozzie) talking about sex on a general stand point or the double standard held for females?
Sorry, but I'm not just sick of the BS I was brought up with in the JWs, I'm sick of seeing girls in general US society told they don't have the sexual impulses males do or if they do they should reject them or unlike their brothers shouldn't act on them...and if they do act on them they're whores. I have a 7 year old niece and don't want to see her brought up with that ideal of ---it's okay and even healthy for her brothers to lose their virginity but if she does, something's wrong with her OR that the only reason to act upon sexual feelings for a woman is when a potential husband is involved.