I understand Brad. And squinks touches on a lot of what I dealt with as well BUT I think it's unfair to generalize, or say that all JWs are good at instances only because of this or that...what I mean is many are under control but most are still human, right? And I think that there are some good hearted humans even in the WTS....they may be hard to spot but I was raised in the Society and I don't think I was ever heartless.
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my take...
by teejay in... on the watchtower society.
i am not one who will ever bother to waste my time heaping praise on the jw religion as though it were some kind of improvement on society.
i have no qualms in saying that it was, is, and always will be a dangerous religion ?
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my take...
by teejay in... on the watchtower society.
i am not one who will ever bother to waste my time heaping praise on the jw religion as though it were some kind of improvement on society.
i have no qualms in saying that it was, is, and always will be a dangerous religion ?
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squinks- I'm not sure you are being fair here. Saying a JW only helps out or is nice to another person only because they are trying to keep that person a JW just isn't true. There are plenty of JWs with large hearts and aren't doing nice things just in order to "get by." If this were true than every ex-JW is guilty of not having a heart until they left the WTS? I think you maybe speaking about your own experience but it's not true of everyone.
I can relate to what you say but I don't think it's true of every JW I've ever met. I don't think you have to have the mindset of making the world a better place in order to do right by those around you.
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Donations in WWW box @ KH
by meat pie ini seem to remember that when there was a specific disaster, we were told we could put our donation in the world wide work box with a note attached stating it was for a particular cause (e.g.
hurricane relief work in a specific incident ) am i right in thinking that the donations are collected out of the box and banked?
do the notes get sent seperately to the branch offices?
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hmmm...that's interesting. I don't remember that ever being announced at the KH I went to. There was one contribution box at the back where the books were sold and all I can remember is knowing it would go to the WTS.
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Non internet infor on UN scandal..please!
by Gill ini am a fortunate 'apostate'.
my parents are still speaking to me, regularly, and we also have been discussing jw doctrine.
however, they do not believe anything i tell them about the un scandal and that the wtbts was a member of the un for ten years before being removed by the un.
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I think it was October 8th and 15th 2001 (?) The articles were written by Stephen Bates of the Guardian.
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my take...
by teejay in... on the watchtower society.
i am not one who will ever bother to waste my time heaping praise on the jw religion as though it were some kind of improvement on society.
i have no qualms in saying that it was, is, and always will be a dangerous religion ?
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Very good and thought provoking post teejay.
It's something I've been thinking about a lot. I regret certain things about being brought up a JW but I don't regret being brought up a JW on the whole. Not that I can come up with many positive experiences, it's more like having been though it is part of who I am--just as growing up poor isn't something I'm fond of remembering but it's part of me.
I would say some of things I can come up with about being brought up a JW I'm generally confused about...or trying to find a medium for. An example being my skepticism towards government...or most authority for that matter. I'm glad I'm a skeptic and not willing to trust people just because they're in power. But I'm confused in that I don't know how much comes from being raised JW and how much comes from feeling the world was screwing over my family when we were at our lowest (financially) I also don't feel it's right for me to assume the worst from all politicians because after all they are human....well this is just a little of what I've been trying to work out in my own head.
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a humble prayer from Women who suffered in Spiritual paradise .....
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may be the inevitable happened , my girlfrind surgically cut me down to ..nothing, by saying , jehovahs witness can never do a thing against bible and god, .
i am gettting ....information from wrong sources.......and she reduced to ashes 2 years to deep love and affection , by saying ....i am worldly ...i am against god and bad..... i am sorry jgnat i choose to be overoptimistic when u told me about that meaning of ..poem ...."amends" and hard hitting stuff about 'apostates' during christmas time.. i still beleive that there is some life leftin me to try ..may be she comes to sense..she may understand... a girl so kind and loving ..... rejected by mother ....and abused sexually by father ....taken as maid by grandmother as maid.....preyed upon by jw love bombing...during her troubled teen years ..... i thought my selfless love will win her from chains....but i have almost thrown out .... may i request from some women who may if they like to help me can write to her email , cause maybe hearing from a former jw may help her realize the truth....that i was not lying..... please pm me ..i need help for sake of truth.. anuva- sad and down ....but still trying to work up ..
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sorry Anuva. Wish I had some words for you but I don't. You might have to just tell her you'll be there for her if she ever needs you...but maybe it would be good to move on. You can't change her mind for her. And there aren't any magic words anyone can say to.The only thing you can really do is not sacrifice finding your own happiness. It might seem like the end of the world because your heart is broke but it's not and you'll see it gets easier with a little time.
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Candy
by duffy inyears ago, while i was still in, i heard coworkers talk about jws leaving candy on their porch.
i had to tell them i knew nothing about that practice and that i thought it sounded kind of cheesy to be honest.
over the years i 've heard the same comments about jws leaving candy behind when they find no one at home...
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Duffy- Yeah, I actually might know some of these people. They all live in different parts of the NW now but are all related. It's just a hunch. Anyway if it has to do with the people I'm thinking of or people at all like them, it doesn't have anything to do with something said at a KH or the WTS-- it's more having to do with the saying "you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
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Yeah der hey, Wisconsin is going to be the new Texas dontchya know!
by Winston Smith :>D inmaybe it?s just me, but lately i?ve noticed a large army of wisconsinite apostates on this board.
what do you say gang, can we take texas as the state with the most apostates?
god knows we can drink a lot, we love to eat, and we know how to party.
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Where's my people from Washington and Oregon? Hell, I'll take Vancouver B.C. Give it a couple hours, they'll be here.
We'll take all of you.
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for those who listen to Christian music....
by missy04 inwhat are your favorite songs??.
i love "shout to the lord" .
and "i believe in god.
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IP -Weezer - "Island In The Sun"
that's a good one. also, Blackalicious is a feel good or most stuff from pharcyd or ....well none of these are "christian music" soooo, guess it doesn't qualify. Don't think I listen to anything that qualifies...although I do have some stuff from the Staple Singers...you know, Mavis Staple and the rest...
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Yeah der hey, Wisconsin is going to be the new Texas dontchya know!
by Winston Smith :>D inmaybe it?s just me, but lately i?ve noticed a large army of wisconsinite apostates on this board.
what do you say gang, can we take texas as the state with the most apostates?
god knows we can drink a lot, we love to eat, and we know how to party.
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mmm...you may have to battle it out with those of us from the Northwest. I may not be living in Seattle now but...if it's war I'll go to battle for my region.
*starts cleanin' gun*