does anyone know where i can get wts publications or books from the first year of publications up to 1950?.
please reply or email me at .
Now Naeblis,
Peace and Love with you;
I don't think you should be saying that to anybody. That's not loving your neighbor. (or your enemy... IF you consider me as such).
1 John 4:20-21
20 If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.
21 And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother.
... andy.
god's name is andy.... you know that old song.... "...andy walks with me; andy talks with me...".
all joking aside... interesting piece of knowledge for you all:.
... Andy. God's name is Andy...
you know that old song...
"...Andy walks with me; Andy talks with me..."
(And He... get it?)
All joking aside... Interesting piece of knowledge for you all:
The english, "Jehovah" did not exist until approx 1611 when the KJV was the new english translation at the time. The translator(s) mistook the flags used in Hebrew scripture to tell the Jews not to say "YHWH" (Yahweh)['Yah-vay], but to say "Adonnai" (He-En: 'LORD'), and thus came out with the name, "Jehovah". I am not saying that "Jehovah" is not a correct name for God; infact I use it sometimes as in "Jehovah Jireh, my Provider", but it is MORE correct to say that God's name is "YHWH" which means "I AM THAT I AM" rather than "Jehovah" which is an error made in translating the Tetragrammaton.
aliC,
does anyone know where i can get wts publications or books from the first year of publications up to 1950?.
please reply or email me at .
does ANYONE know where I can get WTS publications or books from the first year of publications up to 1950?
Please reply or email me at
according to the wt, satan has been doing the majority of the work for the last 1960 years or so.
while jehover had been resting since the exertions of giving birth to creation, he manage to finish his book.
since god completed his last book, he has gone into virtual hibernation.
Mark 16
1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go to anoint Jesus' body.
2 Very early on the first day of the week, just after sunrise, they were on their way to the tomb
3 and they asked each other, "Who will roll the stone away from the entrance of the tomb?"
4 But when they looked up, they saw that the stone, which was very large, had been rolled away.
5 As they entered the tomb, they saw a young man dressed in a white robe sitting on the right side, and they were alarmed.
6 "Don't be alarmed," he said. "You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid him.
7 But go, tell his disciples and Peter, `He is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him, just as he told you.'"
8 Trembling and bewildered, the women went out and fled from the tomb. They said nothing to anyone, because they were afraid.
9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons.
10 She went and told those who had been with him and who were mourning and weeping.
11 When they heard that Jesus was alive and that she had seen him, they did not believe it.
12 Afterward Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them while they were walking in the country.
13 These returned and reported it to the rest; but they did not believe them either.
14 Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen.
15 He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation.
16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;
18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well."
19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God.
20 Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied
it.
where does it say it is a 'sin' if you don't believe that jesus is his own father, but believe jesus is separate from his father?.
aaron.
a servant in christ to the house of israel
Oh, I never said that Jesus was "HIS OWN FATHER".
Although it is possible to be your own grandfather. Ever heard that song?
aliC,
-Mark
where does it say it is a 'sin' if you don't believe that jesus is his own father, but believe jesus is separate from his father?.
aaron.
a servant in christ to the house of israel
Good question.
I've never come across that question before so I can't answer you at this point since I have not drawn any conclusion from scripture. Let me do some research and when I get settled into my new place of living, about one fifth of the way across Canada east from where I live. I will be able to respond in 2 weeks time. If I forget. please email me and ask again. thanks.
cya
before i get started, my name is mark whitmore, 20, i live in vancouver, canada, and i am a follower of the way, a true christian, not a jw.
if you reply, please post who you are, how old and what you believe so that i know where you are coming from.
thanks.. now down to business.. strongs' hebrew and greek online:.
Peace.
jdubla, you are cut. EXIT STAGE LEFT. You are not right for the part. I am trying to achieve 100 posts on this, not 100 slanders. You're Not the right style; not zybo enough...
NEXT!
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As for words being changed and left out, Bibleboy, do you think that the NWT is the ONLY bible that does not have perfect translation??
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Eyebrow. There is no perfect translation, but there ARE better translations. Do I believe in ANY SUPERIOR translation? No. Original texts are far more superior to any translation, and since not translation is perfect, then there can be none which is superior, including the NWT. But there HAVE been changes made in translating the NWT to specifically suit WTS doctrine. eg. the false doctrine that Jesus died on a stake and not a cross -- in the NWT, it will support that false doctrine whereas all other texts to my knowledge say that Jesus died on a cross. It is a whole different can of worms. If you want to talk further then I suggest that you start a new thread on SACRED SCRIPTURE. And in closing, the most important thing about the example I just gave is that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world for the remission of sins.
EVERYONE ELSE:
Please be patient over the next week or two. I am moving from Vancouver, B.C., Canada to Briercrest Bible College, Caronport, Saskatchewan, Canada. email me if there are any immediate questions or comments made in love of course.
In Peace and Love.
before i get started, my name is mark whitmore, 20, i live in vancouver, canada, and i am a follower of the way, a true christian, not a jw.
if you reply, please post who you are, how old and what you believe so that i know where you are coming from.
thanks.. now down to business.. strongs' hebrew and greek online:.
jdubla,
Peace of the Lord be with you.
I have come to understand that you don't want to or not argue constructively on the point that whether Jesus is God or not. Therefore I am not considering your arguements until you come in peace and stop arguing savagely about my style and pointing out everything wrong about me personally. Rather, please focus on the point of the conversation and be constructive. I understand that you're probably cynical, but that gives you no right to throw stones at a man who's imperfect if your not perfect yourself.
I rather enjoy Pomegranates discussion and wish to go in the direction of HIS discussion because it is quite fascinating.
Pomegranate, do you think that you could expand on what you believe? I have never heard that point of view and find it interesting to listen to.
however, if you want to get technical jdubla, the seeds belong to the core and the stem belongs to the tree on which the Apple grew. it's important to remember that I didn't say the Apple WAS God.
In Love Peace and Joy.
before i get started, my name is mark whitmore, 20, i live in vancouver, canada, and i am a follower of the way, a true christian, not a jw.
if you reply, please post who you are, how old and what you believe so that i know where you are coming from.
thanks.. now down to business.. strongs' hebrew and greek online:.
Pom,
Peace and Love be with you as Jesus Christ is with us all.
you used a scripture from Philippians, I'd like to expand on that.
Philippians 2:5-11
5 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature[1] God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature[2] of a servant, being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death-- even death on a cross!
9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
In otherwords, Jesus Humbled himself for OUR sake; In order to save us. The bible says that He returned to His place in heaven and has deity.
Even on earth He called himself God. He was refering to 'YHWH' (Tetragrammaton) when He said the following words:
John 8:58-59
58 "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.
But Philippians 2 metions that Jesus "6 Who, being in very nature[1] God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, 7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature[2] of a servant, being made in human likeness." because he came to 'hang out' with sinners and not the Pharisees or Saducees or Judaizers.
Matthew 9:13
13 But go and learn what this means: `I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
Mark 2:17
17 On hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
Luke 5:32
32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."
Interesting enough as it says in Philippians 2:10-11 that every knee shall bow and tongue confess Jesus Christ is Lord, it also says the same about God the Father in Isaiah 45; with God the Father also declaring that HE is the ONLY SAVIOUR. Now tell me, how can ANYONE be saved through Jesus Christ (Saviour in the New Testament) if Jesus Christ is not God given the following biblical evidence?:
Isaiah 45:22-24
22 "Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.
23 By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear.
24 They will say of me, `In the LORD alone are righteousness and strength.'" All who have raged against him will come to him and be put to shame.
Jesus Christ did not give up his deity entirely or forever. remember John 8:58-59 which I quoted earlier? Also, the following scripture helps to support that.
Hebrews 13:8
8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
You are right from before. I didn't exegete properly and even committed a bit of isagesis. The Lord please forgive me for that and not hold a judgement on me because I am about to correct it.
Pom, I said that the "IMAGE" of God was "body soul and spirit." Please forgive me. BUT, I know that God DID CREATE humans to be tripart beings.
1st Thessalonians 5:23
23 May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
While it does NOT say that it is the IMAGE of God. It DOES say that we ARE INDEED tripart beings. There is not three of us but ONE of us made of three parts. An apple has three parts, skin, flesh and core, but it is STILL ONE APPLE.
And since God Almighty is THE CREATOR and the God of ALL mankind, (Genesis chapter 1, John 1:3, and Jeremiah 32:26-27), and since GOD CREATED man and NO OTHER, (Genesis 1:27-31, 2:7, 2:18, 2:21-23), then God create man a tripart being: Body, Soul, and Spirit.
Whether it is God's "IMAGE" or not, that's what the bible says we are and that's how God created us. Glory to God.
In Peace and Love,
May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Amen.
before i get started, my name is mark whitmore, 20, i live in vancouver, canada, and i am a follower of the way, a true christian, not a jw.
if you reply, please post who you are, how old and what you believe so that i know where you are coming from.
thanks.. now down to business.. strongs' hebrew and greek online:.
Peace to the Pom!
Pom: John 1:14
14 The Word became flesh (no longer God)
* * * (no longer God) * * *
So, Pomegranate, do you, by stating this, confess that Jesus Christ WAS God?
Peace.
