The proof is concrete. Read "The Gentile Times Reconsidered" by Carl Olof Johnason, available at www.commentarypress.com
Everything you need is in this complete discussion book.
i read justhumans response on one of the threads, and he mentioned that jeruselum was not destroyed in 607 bce.
i would like to have more information on this.. pureheart
The proof is concrete. Read "The Gentile Times Reconsidered" by Carl Olof Johnason, available at www.commentarypress.com
Everything you need is in this complete discussion book.
major news folks.. i have obtained the dpi directory for 1999/2000, published by the un's dpi in 1999. i have copied 19 relevant pages of this document.
lloyd barry's name and ciro's name are both mentioned.
also it gives the criteria etc.
The key is to get this stuff into newspapers. From there, it goes everywhere.
i tried to post this on the "major un/wts news - we have a un letter".
thread, but it's not coming up for me.
the page and the listing of the posts are all there, but the boxes are empty.
I'm in. BIG time.
I have been in contact with the Chris Thompson, a reporter with the Star here. He's interested, and I have offered to do an interview with him, and right SMACK dab in the Kingdom Hall. We will go when the rest of the dubs are out.
Of course he will have to keep my name out of it so that I don't end up in a messy divorce like so many of my friends lately. But with all the contacts out there, it should'nt be a problem.
Tomorrow, I might call Crooklyn Lows.
here's a good one.. .
hypocrite organization "disassociates" from the un.
they will come to your door soon, and they will bear in hand a magazine that warns you about "'religious hypocrisy".
Thanks for the good critique. I know that all those who have offered their thoughts are only doing it for the sake of the greatest impact.
When I sit with the reporter, (and for those who call me a hypocrite,YES I will sit with him,) I will use whatever there is at my disposal, including this website, to get the best effect.
And for "lefty"... I will leave the instant it's right that I can do so. I want out. I am not a hypocrite, but a jailbird.
Now you on the other hand, being a Watchtower lover, and being here also, are a different matter...
here's a good one.. .
hypocrite organization "disassociates" from the un.
they will come to your door soon, and they will bear in hand a magazine that warns you about "'religious hypocrisy".
Trilo... howdy.
Hawk and I have been working together on this for a while too.
We conflab by telephone often, and we are working hard. All of your help is appreciated as I see you are working hard at this too.
Do you yet have a jpeg of the original UN document? We have it now. I can send a jpeg if you need it.
here's a good one.. .
hypocrite organization "disassociates" from the un.
they will come to your door soon, and they will bear in hand a magazine that warns you about "'religious hypocrisy".
Yes, I wrote it, and it took me 20 hrs of careful thought. I do appreciate the critique. This kind of reflection only hones the thoughts.
This article is not yet in print, and by the time the reporter get's finished with it, it may be altered. I will work closely with him so that it maintains accuracy, and more importantly POTENCY.
as i always am when i turn to your discussion board.. after reading the unbelievable news about the bestiality practiced by the governing body, i have been looking for a way to break the news in my local area.
i would really like to have the newspaper to pick up the story so it could in turn provoke a discussion with my wife.. i was thinking an opinion / letter to the editor article might help in this respect, and so i wrote one up.
i am posting it here to see if anyone has any comments or suggestions.. the worship of the seemingly powerful.
I just posted an article, that I fired off tonight to a reporter for a very well read newspaper. The reporter will read it and get back to me. He is interested.
It's called "Hypocrite Organization" and is on the main board with a red X....
I also sent the reporter the contact info from the reporter at the Guardian who broke the story. Steve Bates, the Guardian reporter, said he was anxious to speak with the reporter at my local newspaper.
I am providing the reporter here with all he needs, and since this paper already wrote two articles about the JWs this year, a third, and a more accurate one, is only appropriate.
here's a good one.. .
hypocrite organization "disassociates" from the un.
they will come to your door soon, and they will bear in hand a magazine that warns you about "'religious hypocrisy".
Here's a good one.
Hypocrite Organization "Disassociates" from the UN
They will come to your door soon, and they will bear in hand a magazine that warns you about "'religious hypocrisy". They are sure about their message, but do they have the whole story? In what is turning out to be a major scandal, many Jehovah's Witnesses are being shocked to find out that their parent organization "The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society" had for ten years been associated with the United Nations organization. Why is that so bad? It's akin to the Catholic Church agreeing secretly to support 'planned parenthood'. Or a civil liberties group covertly joining the KKK.
In 1991 the Watchtower applied for, and received in 1992, status as an NGO in association with the DPI at the United Nations headquarters. The UN has a vast resource of information, which the Watchtower wanted to get their hands on, and they wanted it pretty bad too. According to UN documents, they had to agree to "support the charter of the United Nations"… "help build public understanding and support for United Nations programmes and goals" and "inform their constituency of issues related to the UN objectives" as well as "encourage political activism in their community." And this on an on-going basis, as they had to renew this affiliation yearly.
Not only did the Watchtower not inform any of it's almost 6m constituents of UN issues, as they agreed to do, they did not even inform the membership of their affiliation with the UN in the first place. They kept it secret, and the reason for that is simple, they were practicing hypocrisy on a grand scale. The Watchtower forbids members from any political activism or any affiliation of this type. Also, the Watchtower's dogma, acceptance of which is mandatory for all Jehovah's Witnesses on pain of shunning by family and friends, teaches that the UN is "the image of the Beast" found in the Apocalypse. For outsiders to fully understand their view of the UN, it would be akin to how the rest of Christendom views the Antichrist.
The Watchtower has derided the UN since it's inception as a "counterfeit peace organization" and a tool of Satan, which God will destroy at the ever-imminent Armageddon. Examining Watchtower literature from the past fifty years reveals only hate for that organization, and here the Watchtower is 'in the belly of the beast'. How deep did the conspiracy go? The Watchtower had to provide samples of its literature every year for UN DPI inspection, for the renewal. So the Watchtower printed some 'eye candy' for this event. They wrote articles, which were made to appear benevolent to UN objectives. These were also preached from door to door, but the constituency had no idea how they were being used.
But Jehovah's Witnesses need not fret over this issue, since the Watchtower, after being exposed by the "Guardian" in the United Kingdom, immediately and quietly sent a letter of disassociation to the UN in an effort to cover their "sin". They hoped that they could successfully keep the truth from the membership. Were they successful?
After the news hit the public, the phone in the NGO department at the UN began ringing off the hook. Jehovah's Witnesses from all over the world were demanding proof, and proof they got! The head of that department at UN headquarters, Mr. Paul Hoffel, provided a letter, upon request from a member, detailing the Watchtower's link, which he asked to be posted on the internet in an effort to quell the surge of phone calls and emails. The letter both confirmed the Watchtower's involvement and it's subsequent disassociation.
The Watchtower then went further, demanding that its name be immediately removed from the UN's web site, in a futile attempt to hide their adulterous relationship. It was removed on or about noon of October 17, 2001.
Also in the news, the Watchtower's policy on dealing with pedophiles will be exposed on a fall edition of Dateline NBC. Members accuse the Watchtower of issuing policies, which hide cases of child abuse, in an attempt to present an image of a "pure" and "clean" organization headed by no other than Jesus.
It's not in any paper yet... but we will see this week.
we read from the oct 1, 2002 watchtower.
pioneering a way of life.
in these last days, as we draw ever closer to armageddon, we realize just how important the imminent approach of armageddon makes the preaching work.
I can't believe that I caught a few of you :)
Look at the date. Watchtower material is written 6 months in advance.
The "joke" article is "2002", a year away. Only one person caught that?
we read from the oct 1, 2002 watchtower.
pioneering a way of life.
in these last days, as we draw ever closer to armageddon, we realize just how important the imminent approach of armageddon makes the preaching work.
We read from the Oct 1, 2002 Watchtower
Pioneering A Way Of Life
In these last days, as we draw ever closer to Armageddon, we realize just how important the imminent approach of Armageddon makes the preaching work. We also see how salvation can resuly from this most important work. If we take the example of the fourteen brothers and sisters who were working full time, making use of the "world to the full", then we can easily see the importance of emphasis on the work. Had these fourteen Christians been immersed in the pioneer work, then they would still be alive today, as they would have been out preaching and not have been found in the WTC on that fateful day, 9-11-01
So there we have it. Let's preach what we know, and know what we preach.... and we'll all be in pair of dice.