Fekel; I sat next to him at Bethel (meals) and had many conversations with him. The table assignment lasted for 10 months and in that time I got to know him. My opinion of him was that he was a very caring and loving person. Some of the things of interest that I remmember him telling me: He came to Bethel around 1917 after he brokeup with a girl friend out on Long Island. He owned a Stanley Steamer and would drive out there to see her. One of the most intriguing items was the time I came upon him at the breakfest table one morning and he was having a very heated argument with Knorr (they did not see me take my seat at the table). From what I could gather they were discussing a GB matter about taking down the presidents power as it existed in 1973. This "heated discussion" was very unlike Fekel as he was a very mild man. He and I would go shoping on Wed. night along Atlantic Av. a number of times and have long discussions. The one thing of ironry that came out of all of our discussions was the thought of not fearing any man and this thought is what gave me the strength to leave the cult. When he died around 1987 I was out of the borg, I still cried like a baby. I will always have fond thoughts of him and great respect.
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Andersinfo: Swingle - Sydlik - Fekel - Jackson
by TheOldHippie insince you've known quite a few of the gb members etc., and mentioned that when jaracz entered a room, sydlik would leave, i'd like to ask you about sydlik - what was your impression of him?
it seems he was sort of a reformist without enough power, but i've also read that some say he had a less glamorous role at the 1980 events?.
and then swingle, of whom i've heard nothing but nice things - your impression?.
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Watchtower is kicking people out again, in the name of LOVE?
by Bethelite Elder inright now at bethel, they are laying off and reassigning again.
if you have cancer or some other illness, you are a liability and it's time to pack.
i remember the night when we had the special talk about there being a great need in the field and some would be sent out.
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B.E................I know how the ones asked to leave feel. I will never forget the look on the faces of the construction workers back in 1974 when Knorr came to lunch one Wed. and said that the work was over they had two weeks to leave. There was one older couple that had been there about three years. They had sold everything and gone to Bethel, expecting 1975 to end all. I rode to the book study with them that night and he could hardly drive, they were so upset. So no money, no job, no home to go to and no future. I often wonder what happened to them.
Thank god I'm out!
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Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Biblically Proven
by minimus inwitnesses try to convince you that everything they teach is supported from the scriptures.. where in the bible does it say anything about "special pioneers" or "publishers"?.
where in the bible does it say you can take some blood components but not others?.
where in the bible does it say that 1914 was a marked year?.
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Heavenly calling being closed out in 1931
appointment of GB in 1918
no military service or alternet service,
selling magazines and books
marking ones who ask questions
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church's use of power
by mann377 inhere is news article from jacksonville fl about what a local church did to find a member who was blogging about what he did not like about the preacher.
could this have far reaching affects?
http://www.jacksonville.com/news/columnists/mark_woods/2009-04-10/story/churchs_use_of_power_is_troubling.
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Here is news article from Jacksonville Fl about what a local church did to find a member who was blogging about what he did not like about the preacher. Could this have far reaching affects?
Give me your comments....................
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Reunion with Former Bethelite friend
by jesussaves inhello board, .
so i had a really good friend go to bethel years ago and he got put out to pasture like so many others.
i procured his telephone number from one of his df'ed family members and sent him a text message asking if he'd like to make contact with an old friend.
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Good to hear! You can count that as a return visit.
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He really did not believe all that 1914 crap. I know this from listening him talk to Charley Feckel at breakfest one morning. I sat down and they did not see me (it was early). Charley got real mad.
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who?went to bet-hell
by mattbetrayed inhi guys ,just woundered how many of you went to bet-hell?i went in 1987 and that finished me with the cult,it did take me 3 yrs before i left the cult but now iam so much better off for going,.. saw all the lies and two faced crap they spout just could not belive it at the time.now it is just what you expect.. please tell us if you went there and what you hated..
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Press Operator, both Brooklyn and WT Farms. What did I hate?...............dish duty, all night watchmen duty, canning all weekend late summer, press room overseer, cold winters.
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It's 1984 all the time for the WTBS
by mann377 ini saw an article the other day that reviewed the book 1984 by george orwell.
this is the first time i have read the book since being deprogramed 20+ years ago.
i was amazed at the parallel with the borg's structure.. which one will you be in the year 1984?.
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I saw an article the other day that reviewed the book 1984 by George Orwell. This is the first time I have read the book since being deprogramed 20+ years ago. I was amazed at the parallel with the Borg's structure.
Which One Will YOU Be In the Year 1984?There won't be much choice, of course, if this book's predictions turn out to be true. But you'll probably become one of the following four types:
Proletarian--Considered inferior and kept in total ignorance, you'll be fed lies from the Ministry of Truth, eliminated upon signs of promse of ability!
Police Guard--Chosen for lack of intelligence but superior brawn, you'll be suspicious of everyone and be ready to give your life for Big Brother, the leader you've never even seen!
Party Member: Male--Face-less, mind-less, a flesh-and-blood robot with a push-button brain, you're denied love by law, taught hate by the flick of a switch!
Party Member: Female--A member of the Anti-Sex League from birth, your duty will be to smother all human emotion, and your children might not be your husband's!
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A Critique of GB Anthony Morriss 2007 Convention Talk - Barb Anderson
by Dogpatch ina painstaking satire/critique of gb anthony morriss 2007 convention talk, .
http://www.freeminds.org/women/morris2007.htm.
they keep following the lamb no matter where he goes".
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I hope GB Morris didn't break his arm patting himself on the back! What is really scary about this talk is the fact that there was a time when I would have taken this seriously. I also think that the GB is showing their hand by mentioning "faithful slave" 96 times in 30 minutes. I believe they see this train (the internet) coming down the tracks and they just can not get off the tracks.
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Kansas City info
by mann377 ini have been trying to find (or what happened to them) a family that i knew in the late '70"s by the name of bergen.
they live in the kansas part of the city and had one daughter.
does anyone know them or what happened to them?
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They had a daughter named Lana.