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  Is Jesus Christ God?

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  issue of august 22nd, 1976, pages 23-26, says this: .

  about this, the watchtower issue of april 4, 1976 said this: .

  "christ jesus, the only one who "fully knows" the father" .

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  Ianone

  Hey how did you edit your post? I haven't figured out how to do that yet?
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  Is Jesus Christ God?

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  issue of august 22nd, 1976, pages 23-26, says this: .

  about this, the watchtower issue of april 4, 1976 said this: .

  "christ jesus, the only one who "fully knows" the father" .

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  Ianone

  God has come in the flesh. Praise Christ. Blessed is he who believeth in Him. The I AM THAT I AM who spoke to Moses and spoke in Galilee. The Holy one.
  
  Christ said unto the Judeans "If ye had listened to Moses, ye would have believed in me, for he wrote of me."
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  Strategy: Jehovah's Witnesses and the Trinity.

  by Odrade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a certain catholic xjw (jeff schwem) and i have been following the same blog for several months.

  in this blog, the young woman has been documenting her conversion to jwism.

  i have not always been so kind in my comments as jeff has been, but i have been honest.

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  Ianone

  Actually odrade I found your initial post to be confusing. Perhaps you could clear it up and be more specific.
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  Strategy: Jehovah's Witnesses and the Trinity.

  by Odrade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a certain catholic xjw (jeff schwem) and i have been following the same blog for several months.

  in this blog, the young woman has been documenting her conversion to jwism.

  i have not always been so kind in my comments as jeff has been, but i have been honest.

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  Ianone

  Let me try to answer that question. I for one do not bring up any doctrine when talking to a JW. Like I said before, I prefer the freeminds.org approach of addressing the misplaced security, something that Little Toe completely ignored when he responded to me. Trinitarians most likely pick the trinity for discussion with a J Dub because they feel it is the most important issue. Truth is, as you most likely know, most "Christians" can not argue with a JW. JW's can defeat the average Christian even on a bad day. This , however, is not an indication of the JW possesing the truth or being more correct, they are simply more trained. But I believe it is a mistake to bring up doctrine, at least at first. THe JWs dont stay JWs because of the doctrines the ORg has to offer, they stay JWs because of the security that the WT, and surrounding environment (i.e. friends etc.) provide to the witeness.
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  Strategy: Jehovah's Witnesses and the Trinity.

  by Odrade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a certain catholic xjw (jeff schwem) and i have been following the same blog for several months.

  in this blog, the young woman has been documenting her conversion to jwism.

  i have not always been so kind in my comments as jeff has been, but i have been honest.

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  Ianone

  LT I didnt know Odrade was a JW. Had I known, I wouldnt have brought up doctrine.
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  Who Gives a Shyte if Russell was a Freemason or not?

  by LittleToe in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

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  a poll, inspired by gumby.... one vote here for not giving a shyte..

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  Ianone

  Again, diverting from the real issue. JW is a Zionist front.
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  Watchtower Corporations

  by SWALKER in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  does anyone have a current list of the many corporation names the watchtower society now uses?

  i have 8, but it seems that i read there are many more.

  any ideas on where a list is?.

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  Ianone

  would you mind posting the 8 you have now?
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  Who Gives a Shyte if Russell was a Freemason or not?

  by LittleToe in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

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  a poll, inspired by gumby.... one vote here for not giving a shyte..

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  Ianone

  You are doing the same thing LT. The point is not whether or not Russell is a Mason. We all know he was. The point is WHY. What agenda did he and his Jewish/Masonic backers bring? WHY! What was their goal/purpose....If all the experts are correct, than it was to Usurp the Christian faith....Not this cheesy evangelical, televangelist pop-churchianity, but the Orthodox faith in Christ Jesus.
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  Who Gives a Shyte if Russell was a Freemason or not?

  by LittleToe in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

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  a poll, inspired by gumby.... one vote here for not giving a shyte..

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  Ianone

  More and more obfuscation from you Littletoe. Diverting the focus of the real issue, that there is a deeper and darker plot behind the Watchtower, and shifting on to endless/diversionary debates about who really cares.
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  Strategy: Jehovah's Witnesses and the Trinity.

  by Odrade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a certain catholic xjw (jeff schwem) and i have been following the same blog for several months.

  in this blog, the young woman has been documenting her conversion to jwism.

  i have not always been so kind in my comments as jeff has been, but i have been honest.

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  Ianone

  Although I have seen in rare cases, a person come to believe Jesus is God through what appeared to be a formulated understanding...although I don't know how strong a foundation this sets for a person. Like I said, I myself am a Modalist, former trinitarian. In both cases I have always believed Jesus is my Personal friend and God who created me. Doctrines and formulas did not decide this for me...my heart was instictively inclined to desire and believe this. It is what I want.