Posts by BigQuestion

what attracted me to the wt....i read too many of their magazines from 15-19 basically....it almost got me buying into their stuff, but then, just when i had just started getting into it all, i stopped and dropped it with the idea that i'd look into it later.. i remember reading the book of revelation at age 15 and wondering what it meant, all those dragons and horned beasts...then i got hold of some jw literature and there it was...it was all explained, nice and simple.all those prophecies about the end time seemed so good to a kid....i mean, i never really could understand their blood doctrine but you can over look that...after all, the truth is a powerful weapon, you can make people do anything when you have "the truth"...even murder!..

another thing attracted me to it.....they seemed not to be preaching that bad people would burn in hell for all eternity, that there was no hell, that there was going to be a resurrection of the good and bad......yeah, seems pretty good, a caring religion eh!...everyone is going to be given ample chance to learn the truth and change.

but things change, i started questioning as i got older...gave the bible study guy a hard time with all those questions, then we had an argument and i just cut it off....decided to look at it later.... but their stuff was always in the back of my mind.. well, later is now....6 months ago i wander into h20 rather casual like, couple that with the fact that i find out a friend has fallen in with jw's and i get sucked into studying up about it all.....its very interesting.its amazing how much you chance your world view from age 19 to 27......things are all different now, jw's look like nothing more than a high control totalitarian cult with some rather wacky world views and prophecies??????????

BigQuestion

Zep if i had a choice i know which screwed up i'd prefer. What's the story with gentiles times reconsidered - is there an online copy?

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Writing private letters to the Society.

by spectromize in

for anyone who's ever written something of a private nature or asked clarification on certain beliefs have you ever had the unfortunate experience of the elders calling you in the back room or a sheperding call ?.

the reason i bring this out is that newer brothers or sisters don't know that everytime you write the society the society sends a copy of your letter to your local cong.

elders.

BigQuestion

Yes Redhorsewoman - you should listen to friend, he knows more WTBTS rules than anyone. For example he said:
"The key factor is that they are all appointed by the Society to read letters such as that and help respond depending on the need."

Which is absolutely correct. That need of course is that the elders get their stories straight make sure their collective arses are covered and get the witch hunt rolling against the author of the letter against them.

Redhorsewoman when will you learn you should always respect somebody who knows more rules than you - like Friend.- BIGQUESTION

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Writing private letters to the Society.

by spectromize in

for anyone who's ever written something of a private nature or asked clarification on certain beliefs have you ever had the unfortunate experience of the elders calling you in the back room or a sheperding call ?.

the reason i bring this out is that newer brothers or sisters don't know that everytime you write the society the society sends a copy of your letter to your local cong.

elders.

BigQuestion

Wow Friend, you know more of the Societies rules than anyone. I bet you bring a lot of people into the truth with them.-BigQuestion

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Fred Chapter 8

by BigQuestion in

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hey i figure if fred can add and subtract from the bible however he wants so can i.. fred 8 (english-niv).

when fred franz came down from the mountainside, large crowds followed him.

a man with leprosy came and knelt before him and said, "fred franz, if you are willing, you can make me clean.

BigQuestion

Hey I figure if Fred can add and subtract from the Bible however he wants so can I.

FRED 8 (English-NIV)

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When Fred Franz came down from the mountainside, large crowds followed him.
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A man with leprosy came and knelt before him and said, "Fred Franz, if you are willing, you can make me clean."
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Fred Franz reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," he said. "Be clean!" Immediately he was cured of his leprosy.
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Then Fred Franz said to him, "See that you don't tell anyone. But go, show yourself to the priest and offer the gift Moses commanded, as a testimony to them."
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When Fred Franz had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help.
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"Fred Franz," he said, "my servant lies at home paralyzed and in terrible suffering."
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Fred Franz said to him, "I will go and heal him."
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The centurion replied, "Fred Franz, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed.
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For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, `Go,' and he goes; and that one, `Come,' and he comes. I say to my servant, `Do this,' and he does it."
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When Fred Franz heard this, he was astonished and said to those following him, "I tell you the truth, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith.
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I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
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But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
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Then Fred Franz said to the centurion, "Go! It will be done just as you believed it would." And his servant was healed at that very hour.
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When Fred Franz came into Peter's house, he saw Peter's mother-in-law lying in bed with a fever.
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He touched her hand and the fever left her, and she got up and began to wait on him.
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When evening came, many who were demon-possessed were brought to him, and he drove out the spirits with a word and healed all the sick.
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This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah: "He took up our infirmities and carried our diseases." [3]
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When Fred Franz saw the crowd around him, he gave orders to cross to the other side of the lake.
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Then a teacher of the law came to him and said, "Teacher, I will follow you wherever you go."
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Fred Franz replied, "Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head."
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Another disciple said to him, "Fred Franz, first let me go and bury my father."
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But Fred Franz told him, "Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead."
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Then he got into the boat and his disciples followed him.
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Without warning, a furious storm came up on the lake, so that the waves swept over the boat. But Fred Franz was sleeping.
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The disciples went and woke him, saying, "Fred Franz, save us! We're going to drown!"
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He replied, "You of little faith, why are you so afraid?" Then he got up and rebuked the winds and the waves, and it was completely calm.
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The men were amazed and asked, "What kind of man is this? Even the winds and the waves obey him!"
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When he arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes, [4] two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were so violent that no one could pass that way.
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"What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?"
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Some distance from them a large herd of pigs was feeding.
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The demons begged Fred Franz, "If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs."
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He said to them, "Go!" So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water.
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Those tending the pigs ran off, went into the town and reported all this, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men.
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Then the whole town went out to meet Fred Franz. And when they saw him, they pleaded with him to leave their region

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New System Conundrum

by RedhorseWoman in

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does everyone remember the wt stating that in the new system, after everyone has been resurrected, there will be at least one acre per person?.

didn't that seem like a lot of space to you?

i know it did to me, growing up in a typical suburban neighborhood.

BigQuestion

"But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Mat 5:28. Dubby with your present attitude prospects for being on the receivng end of you're own 1 acre ( complete with lion and lamb, people emerging from graves, hollywood mansion, lake, eternal picnics etc), a sandy butt crack and access to wall to wall naked sisters 24 x 7 forever,are highly unlikely.

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New System Conundrum

by RedhorseWoman in

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friends

does everyone remember the wt stating that in the new system, after everyone has been resurrected, there will be at least one acre per person?.

didn't that seem like a lot of space to you?

i know it did to me, growing up in a typical suburban neighborhood.

BigQuestion

Simon, you of little faith, don't you know that Jehovah will provide all these necessary things for you. Unless we receive new light on the subject I believe the present light is that a certain portion of the ressurected, those who had been disfellowshipped and then reinstated due having been in a situation where new light changed to old light and then back to new light again, this class will man the toilet paper factories for the first thousand years. I forgot where I read that, can anyone remember?. Reminds me of a joke: Boris Yeltsin goes on National television to announce to the Russian people - " Due to the current economic crisis I have some good news and some bad news for you, first the bad news - we've run out of toilet paper, now the good news - we've also run out of food"

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Daily Text

by BigQuestion in

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"put no trust in a friend, have no confidence ina loved one, guard the doors of your mouth from her who lies in your embrace" - micah 7:5, new revised standard version

BigQuestion

"put no trust in a FRIEND, have no confidence ina loved one, guard the doors of your mouth from her who lies in your embrace" - Micah 7:5, New Revised Standard Version