lovelylil: Thanks - that's a long time.
lilybird: Well you have done your kids a great service for the rest of their lives by doing that... good work.
LittleToe: Oh I remember you! Glad to see I recognize someone. Hope you're doing well. Things are fine for me.
Scully: Congrats on your 10k'th post!! I remember speaking to you on MSN a few times too, a long time ago.
greendawn: Well thanks...I'm not really in the habit of contributing to a forum yet but I'm sure it'll all come back to me.
Narkissos: Whoa, I definitely remember you. Narkissos from France who has a picture of himself hugging someone. You and LT are very opinionated and intellectual writers.
Lady Lee: Hi there, thanks for the welcome back.
Lady Liberty: I'm sure you will at some point. Thanks for the warm welcome.
kazar: Wow, yeah, sounds almost opposite, in a way. Good to see you came to your senses.
jeanniebeanz: Thank you!
cyberguy: That's great to hear, cyberguy. Thank you, too.
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by rune inhello everyone... i am returning after vanishing from this place over a year.
i don't recognize anyone, sorry :s i grew up in arnprior, ontario of canada, which is not far from ottawa, the capital city of the country (the place i live now).
i was raised in a strict witness upbringing until i was 15, when i got loose finally.
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returning to this site...
by rune inhello everyone... i am returning after vanishing from this place over a year.
i don't recognize anyone, sorry :s i grew up in arnprior, ontario of canada, which is not far from ottawa, the capital city of the country (the place i live now).
i was raised in a strict witness upbringing until i was 15, when i got loose finally.
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You too, Fleshybirdfodder. I'm glad to hear things are looking up for you.
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returning to this site...
by rune inhello everyone... i am returning after vanishing from this place over a year.
i don't recognize anyone, sorry :s i grew up in arnprior, ontario of canada, which is not far from ottawa, the capital city of the country (the place i live now).
i was raised in a strict witness upbringing until i was 15, when i got loose finally.
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Yes, the internet is quite something... After relationships failed to provide any long-lasting solace from all that garbage that happened in the past, I too ended up smoking marijuana, starting at age 20. In fact, I'm high right now. I smoked a joint before I got some fruit and veggies from the store. I don't really have a serious problem though, I just need to work myself out of the familiar mental rut that seems to resemble 'those times' so I can be motivated and achieve all the things I want to... but nah instead I'm chilling in the heat smoking pot and blasting music......... life is good
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Things JW's Say: "In the New Order, I will <insert activity here>."
by under_believer inone of the most notorious things that jw's like to talk about are their expectations for the new order.
they talk about what things will be like, the kind of activities they'll enjoy, how resurrection will work, what the "worldwide cleanup work" will entail, which houses they'll appropriate, how they'll finally be able to have the kids they've put off, and so on.
here are some of the things i've heard witnesses say about the new order: they would personally explore the moons of jupiter for possible human colonization they would eat meat, since isaiah talks about "well oiled dishes filled with marrow" they would travel the world they would learn to play the piano they would research the "other scrolls that would be opened" they would play football (but not tackle football) they would have bible studies with newly resurrected ones they would speak hebrew (it's the language god gave adam and eve, you know, and we'll all have one language in the new order...) they would literally never feel any pain sensations ever again, even if they banged their elbow.
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"...be made perfect!" "What's perfect?" "W-well, ...it's having all the flaws in your body fixed by Jehovah." "Oh... like bad teeth and scars?" "Yeah! He'll even cure weight problems, and ugliness!" "You sound so relieved." "I can't wait to play-wrestle with a polar bear, or play fetch with a wolf!" "You first..."
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returning to this site...
by rune inhello everyone... i am returning after vanishing from this place over a year.
i don't recognize anyone, sorry :s i grew up in arnprior, ontario of canada, which is not far from ottawa, the capital city of the country (the place i live now).
i was raised in a strict witness upbringing until i was 15, when i got loose finally.
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Hello everyone... I am returning after vanishing from this place over a year. I don't recognize anyone, sorry :S I grew up in Arnprior, Ontario of Canada, which is not far from Ottawa, the capital city of the country (the place I live now). I was raised in a strict Witness upbringing until I was 15, when I got loose finally. Anyone else in this situation (raised in the Witnesses then got out)? Anyone from Ontario or Canada in general read this site? Give me a holler in this thread :) Sometimes it's hard to find common ground with other people who don't have the same background...
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just wanted to say hello
by rune ini know i have been quiet for a while... i am sorry my friends, hopefully i will think of something meaningful to say again someday, something we can all discuss and enjoy.
things will never be the same again, and i hope that from this passing shadow to the next you find a piece of what you are looking for.. the tiniest things can make the most enormous differences.... i wish you all well.
--daniel
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I know I have been quiet for a while... I am sorry my friends, hopefully I will think of something meaningful to say again someday, something we can all discuss and enjoy. Things will never be the same again, and I hope that from this passing shadow to the next you find a piece of what you are looking for.
The tiniest things can make the most enormous differences...
I wish you all well
--Daniel
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Why ? Why? WHY???
by rune inthis topic has been rolling around in my head for some time.
i don't expect that i'll write it perfectly as it needs to be articulated in different ways for different people...but i will do my best.
and worst of all, i am not expecting any kind of response that will satisfy me.
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czarofmischiefb: Um, ok, so you're trying to live up to your name by repeating some of the same old wrong things that formerout and LittleToe said earlier in this post I take it? Is it possible you could drop it? I'm not going to repeat the replies I made the to them again and again to you.
frenchbabyface: The lesson we should learn from them is life is too short to try to understand others. Mockery is so much easier than debating. Oh well, no matter, it just means I have to change my expectations when I post
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Why ? Why? WHY???
by rune inthis topic has been rolling around in my head for some time.
i don't expect that i'll write it perfectly as it needs to be articulated in different ways for different people...but i will do my best.
and worst of all, i am not expecting any kind of response that will satisfy me.
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czarofmischief: So you have the same old story. Why did you even bother?
frenchbabyface: You are making a good point (at least to me) about the way things should be...but um, some people other than us are hung up on past issues like, for instance, saying I am a youthful non-believer who just needs to be exposed to that almighty powerful spirit so I can be just like 95% of the world. 'Cuz hell, it's so simple, why didn't I think of it? The majority is never wrong, stupid, or misguided, right?
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Why ? Why? WHY???
by rune inthis topic has been rolling around in my head for some time.
i don't expect that i'll write it perfectly as it needs to be articulated in different ways for different people...but i will do my best.
and worst of all, i am not expecting any kind of response that will satisfy me.
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rune (yes I'm talking to myself):
You won't get this boring gray utopian paradise of love you dream of.
It's funny how this sounds compared to what I've been saying lately. Communism is a bleak prospect in some ways. Everyone gets the same things, the same 'opportunities'. No one is favored over another...at least to the best that society can operate. So I ask you all...
Would a world without danger, chance, tragedy & sadness be worth living in?
Perhaps the phrase 'everything is as it should be' has more to it than just rhetoric...
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Why ? Why? WHY???
by rune inthis topic has been rolling around in my head for some time.
i don't expect that i'll write it perfectly as it needs to be articulated in different ways for different people...but i will do my best.
and worst of all, i am not expecting any kind of response that will satisfy me.
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SixofNine:
Whatever the world *is*, now, is most certainly not what it "always has been".
Actually it's not a great idea to quote only parts of sentences when it takes the meaning of the whole sentence away from it.
What I said was:
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I see the world staying the same as it always has been - the strong rule, the weak suffer.
You're saying it hasn't always been this way? Please explain.
frenchbabyface: Surely you are right...I mean, just because things can't be perfect doesn't mean we can't try. I just think holding visions of 'paradise' in one's heart is foolish...but working to improve things for everyone isn't bad. What I was saying earlier was more to stress that despite any efforts made to improve things, there are so many people out there unwilling to steer their lives with the same sentiments as these noble ones that we cannot expect to see anything close to this utopian idea (not perfect) in our lifetimes. Even so, one step at a time I guess...just because we can't have it now doesn't mean we can't try, I suppose. Then there is the little matter of only thinking, and doing.
Those who can make the biggest effect by nurturing these sentiments are those with the wealth / the power. People who are working 9-to-5 jobs, barely making ends meet and have families to raise really don't have a choice but to look out for their own, at least not without devoting all their free time to some cause (and who knows if that will do any good). But those who have wealth/power get quite comfortable with it I would imagine...the problem doesn't exist for them - they are on the smaller, beneficiary side of the scale. It is a tricky problem to deal with, since those who could help are the ones benefitting from the problems existing. Not all rich/powerful people are like this, but it is easy to see why one wouldn't want to disrupt their own life of splendour to help some people they never met. For many, altruism above and beyond the call of duty is not desired.
I don't want to rip the silver lining from any clouds by this line of thinking. I realize some think it is pessimistic, but I don't really see it that way at all. Coming to grips with a real problem that is hard to solve is the first step in thinking of a really effective solution (hopefully). That is why I prefer using the term realism rather than pessimism. Optimistic views are great for motivating oneself and for energy to do what needs to be done, but they are almost a flight of fancy - without someone to consider the real grit and consequences/reaction to an action an optimist may find themselves sorely disappointed. Since people don't have to work alone, no one has to abandon optimism if they like it. They should just work with realists... Vague, I know... I am speaking about banding together to take some kind of action. But what action? What would be most effective? To address which part of the problem? This takes a lot of consideration...