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  Children-any went from JW to Atheist?

  by lonelysheep in

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  we rode past the kingdom hall a few days ago, when my daughter (8) said, "that's the church mommy and i used to go to.

  i said, "yes, it is, and we do not go to any religious places anymore.

  " i said that b/c i can't bear to take her to any even if she wants to go.

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  lonelysheep

  Even though I'm an adult in my thirties (no children), I was raised a JW, lost my "faith" around 14, kept it secret, completely lost belief in god during my late twenties, and still keep it secret because my folks are faithful JWs. It's been a long road. But I'm happier now as an atheist than I ever was as a JW.

  Me, too, LadyZombie. I struggled with my faith in god at that age. It was a bad time filled with anger. No more of that, though. I think that's why I had no anger issues after leaving jw's. All of my anger dissapated before them. That was my own experience.

  Your children are fortunate. They're still young and can explore all the possibilites and make up their own minds later. If they would be raised as a JW, they would never get to question anything, they would miss out on school activities, they would be discouraged from seeking higher education, and on.

  http://www.atheistparents.org/

  Yes. That's all I want, for them to be able to go either way on their own. "God" is not something I can fight.
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  Children-any went from JW to Atheist?

  by lonelysheep in

  1. social
  2. family

  we rode past the kingdom hall a few days ago, when my daughter (8) said, "that's the church mommy and i used to go to.

  i said, "yes, it is, and we do not go to any religious places anymore.

  " i said that b/c i can't bear to take her to any even if she wants to go.

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  lonelysheep

  We rode past the kingdom hall a few days ago, when my daughter (8) said, "That's the church Mommy and I used to go to."
  
  I said, "Yes, it is, and we do not go to any religious places anymore." I said that b/c I can't bear to take her to any even if she wants to go. At the same time, we have friends and family who go to church, so they have an outlet.

  My son (6) said, "I didn't go there." He was only 2 when I left. My daughter then said, "I just don't believe in god anymore," in a neutral tone like she'd given up Santa, which I guess is next this xmas. My son said, "I still do". His peers talk to him about god constantly.

  My daughter, though, I questioned who she was praying to when she would pray a few times in the past year or two. I made her think about what she was doing and why. My son is not of maturity to comprehend thinking about it, so god exists with him and it's fine. He does call me out when I say, "Jesus Christ!" rather than some curse word. He tells me that god will get mad at me. I tell him, "Baby, Mommy doesn't believe in God and not everybody does. I won't say it around you if it bothers you." To him, it's as if I am breaking the law. LOL

  *Forgot to add.......one Simpsons episode came on months ago which was big on church and god. She asked me flat out, "Mommy, is god real?" I replied, "No."

  So, I was wondering if anyone else has children that went from kh kids to the anti-christ?

  I think it's time for me to get one of the books on godless parenting.

  (I'd appreciate feedback absent of flaming and/or deroggatory remarks. TIA)

  ~L who loves being a mom everyday.
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  What really is a Soul Mate? --- Is it possible Yes or No?

  by Hope4Others in

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  soul mate.

  n. one of two persons compatible with each other in disposition, point of view, or sensitivity.

  there seems to be a variety of defintions on the net so what does "soul mate" mean?.

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  I don't use the term soul mate but prefer to call such people a GREAT friend.
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  When did you last attend a meeting at the Kingdom Hall?

  by Thechickennest in

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  lonelysheep

  September 26, 2004
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  The World's Largest Swimming Pool - WOW!

  by AK - Jeff in

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  http://www.victory-cruises.com/pool.html.

  it is more than 1,000 yards long, covers 20 acres, has a 115-foot deep end, and holds 66 million gallons of water: this one took five years to build, cost nearly 1 billion, and the annual maintenance bill will be 2 million.. .

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  Where is this? Off the coast of Chile.

  It looks amazing!!
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  How do you handle ... being shunned?

  by Awakened at Gilead in

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  my da announcement was last tuesday, so i have been on the official jw shun list for about a week now.... i am curious how you handle shunning.my situation:.

  i have spoken with my family (my parents and 1 brother) and discussed whether they will shun me.

  i explained that biblically they should not shun me since i am not an antichrist, and i have not rejected the teaching that jesus cam in the flesh.

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  I don't have family in.

  My fake friends irritate me with their every 6 month calls to see if I've changed my mind. My thinking is, if you're going to cut me out of your life, then keep it that way, in every way possible.

  Another one blatantly ignored me and I now see her as arrogant.

  So, to answer your question, I handle it just fine. Life goes on and on despite armegeddon doctrines.
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  Are the "Converted" ever really accepted by those "Born In ?"

  by Casper in

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  my old hall was made up of mostly 3 large families, with some extended added in.

  all seemed to be related in one way or another, several generations represented.. coming in from the world at the age of 28, i never really felt that i belonged there.

  i stuck it out for 13 years.

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  People liked to look at me and think "that's great what he's doing" but had no desire to become my friend or a part of my life. It made it much easier to leave.

  Yes. In hindsight, it spelled out how unhappy they are inside.
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  Are the "Converted" ever really accepted by those "Born In ?"

  by Casper in

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  my old hall was made up of mostly 3 large families, with some extended added in.

  all seemed to be related in one way or another, several generations represented.. coming in from the world at the age of 28, i never really felt that i belonged there.

  i stuck it out for 13 years.

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  I'm glad I found this thread!

  No...the converted are never really accepted by those born in. I didn't come up with my screenname Lonelysheep for nothing.

  It felt as tho, the once worldly ones, were watched more closely and more was expected of them to prove their faith.

  Absolutely. You have more to prove to their new standards since we were new. It was like rules were made up as we went along.

  White Dove--LOL at your comment. That is exactly how I felt the born in looked at me!

  Wildfell-After you have given up family, friends, work and education opportunities and to a large extent, your identity, it's very discouraging to be treated like that.
  Being a convert is very lonely.

  This is a truly powerful, stupid but sincere move to make in life, and something I never felt born ins (while in at any cong) even wanted to understand or acknowledge. I gave up my life for them. Forget about what they may have been secretly envious of my having had experienced....I threw it away for the same bull$hit faith they lived each day, too. Give me more respect if anything. I was proving how bad the world really was! Don't push me away.

  Sass my frass-It's probably because no convert could possibly buy it all; they'd have had enough time as an adult already to have been able to flex their conscience and intelligence on a few things. Surely they wouldn't be comfortable with surrendering every choice in their life.

  Exactly...great choice of words! Things couldn't really stick but for so long.

  Snoozy-What I myself have noticed now though, is that the "Born In's" seem to have the most hostility when they leave the religion.

  Yes, generally speaking. I think we can agree it's understood but at what point does one set boundaries for themselves. Message boards are so very minor in perspective (as for taking breaks b/c they're bringing a person down) compared to real life hostile actions.

  Another statement is:
  
  How many Converted then go on to live with Atheism after leaving the JWs?
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  Gay Marriage - The War for Equality

  by Inquisitor in

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  i've just read lola28's thread "for those against gay marriage".

  i thought i should present a clear message on what i think the gay marriage issue is all about.

  the trouble with most discussions on this issue is that it gets clouded by a plethora of side-issues, non-issues, cave-men chest-thumping and medieval puritanism.

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  I don't know how anyone can be against marriage for people of the same gender and still claim to give a damn about humanity at the same time. The two do not go together.

  Religion keeps people stuck on stupid rather than progressing.
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  are you guys coping wit the cost of living?

  by The Lone Ranger in

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  i am really concerned with the cost of living.

  fuel costs are high and getting higher.

  food and housing.

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  lonelysheep

  Very badly.