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  Funniest, Most Satanic Christmas Display...ever!

  by Nancy Drake in

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  i'll bet the jw's skip this house when out in the ministry!!!!

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  Gill

  Brilliant! I agree with Wild Horses.

  Only an ex JW could make such a profound statement in one go.
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  Another Danger for JWs and the Internet

  by frankiespeakin in

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  one thing that carries a real serious threat to the wt is the fact that most jws in developed countries have email addresses.. you know how some send out general emails to all their freinds and when you get the email it has "all" the address on the top because the person sent that particular message to everyone all at once to save time.

  think how dangereous that is to the wt, because when someone get to know the truth about the wt and becomes apostate they have all these email addresses that they can send information to to deprogram other jws.

  this can really snowball in time.

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  Gill

  I believe the net is the biggest threat to JW thinking. We had been out of the Org. for a few years but had still not managed to shake the thinking. We had only had the net for about a year and my mother said to me to make sure that I never read any of those sites on JWs.

  First thing I did when I got home was to start reading those dreaded sites...Lo and behold mine and my families intellectual freedom really began. Wow! I think it would be really difficult to leave the JWs completely without that kind of indepth knowledge.
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  My parents rejected my invitation - because of the tree

  by GermanXJW in

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  yesterday was a special day for my family and me: we bought our first x-mas tree.

  the kids are very enthusiastic about it.

  and i was happy providing them with something i did not have as a kid.

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  He, he!! Let the festivities begin!!
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  Any changes in treatment of the disfellowshipped?

  by fifi in

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  i was wondering if anyone could enlighten me as to whether the acceptable way to treat disfellowshipped family members has changed at all over the past 6-8 months or so?

  i'm getting the "brush off" more and more from my family and was wondering if there have been any modifications.

  i suppose i should be grateful that they talk to me at all, when i read some of the posts on this board, but i can't help wondering.. thanks for any info.. fifi.

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  Gill

  Hi there Mouthy and everyone,

  Mouthy, you make me laugh as usual.'Confuse, confuse, confuse!'

  I don't think anything has changed with the treatment of Dis'd and DA'd people. Makes me realise how lucky we are with my side of the family. My husbands shun us and we shun them back! LMAO!

  My family continue to have as much contact with us as ever despite my roasting them about joining a cult, the JW's being a bunch of fanatics, 1914, 607 BCE....etc. My mother just said,recently, 'never mind, the truth's not for everyone..!' What can you say? A least she's not ignoring us! They came round for dinner twice last week even though we told them that one of the meals was for my daughter's twentieth birthday. My father said, "We'll be there, don't worry about that'.

  They've asked us round for dinner on Boxing day.

  Makes you wonder if they are gradually listening. Or maybe they're just nicer people than I realised!

  I know we're lucky so I'm sorry for everyone that has the treatment we get from my husband's side of the family.
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  My parents rejected my invitation - because of the tree

  by GermanXJW in

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  yesterday was a special day for my family and me: we bought our first x-mas tree.

  the kids are very enthusiastic about it.

  and i was happy providing them with something i did not have as a kid.

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  Hi German,

  Honestly! Relatives can be such a pain in the ass. It's a good job we love them. Try to have a sense of humour about it, like we have. We also have our first tree this year. The children are so excited they don't know what to do with themselves and they range from 5 to 20! My husband is so excited he doesn't know what to do ! Sad how we have missed out on this fun for years! Try to just enjoy it yourselves and not worry about your parents this year. Ours would flip their lids if they new we had a Xmas tree so we're just enjoying feeling like naughty little children. You should have seen us sneaking out of the shop with the tree and racing to the car. We're still laughing about it now. The only reason we 'sneaked' was not that we felt guilty, but that we didn't want to lose all contact with my family if we were disfellowshiped. We have already lost all contact with my husband's.

  So have a wonderful Christmas holiday. Forget JW craziness for a few days at least and just be Happy. Isn't that my we all left in the first place, because we didn't want to be trapped in that lunacy any more!

  MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU, YOUR FAMILY AND EVERYONE!!!
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  Do you become empty inside after leaveing the witness's?

  by PinTail in

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  i find myself feeling empty inside sense drifting away after my being shuned, and my divorce from my wife who was a witness, and after my daughter had been molested by a stupid brother in the hall that my ex-wife started living with after my becoming disabled.

  i am newly married now to a good women who is not a witness, but she is honest and kind to me and understands what i have been through, but still i feel a empty somewhere in side of me.

  of note during this time of pain, i fell hit my head and lost a major portion of my brain which left me disabled, and very emotional at times feeling like all is lost, i just can't throw it.

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  Hi there Shane,

  Really sorry to hear you've had some really rough deals just lately. I hope this doesn't sound shallow, but you've really got to give yourself time to readjust to everything that's happened. Sometimes it can take a few years to find your feet again. Eventually that empty feeling will be gone and filled again. Sound like you've got a lovely lady taking care of you. Give lots of love and take the love that's offered you back. You will get there slowly.

  Problems like these tend to take a two steps forward and one step back approach to recovering from. Occassionally, you take two steps back wards sometimes aswell. But in the end you are moving forward and recovering slowly. We all adapt, no matter what but it takes Time.

  I'm sure there are lots of people like me who always read your posts. Maybe we don't always reply but it doesn't mean we don't read what you're saying and follow your story. You have lots of friends here.

  Stick with it, keep talking, everyone is listening, and like Prophecor says, get some sleep. Rest a lot. Give it Time.

  Good luck and keep posting.

  Love, Gill
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  Alcoholics and alcoholism in the congregations

  by badboy in

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  was it a problem in your congregation?

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  From my own knowledge of the congregation we used to go to and family, I'd say it's a big problem. It surprises me how openly some talk of NEEDING quite a few drinks on non-meeting nights and after meetings just to be able to relax a bit. Since not attending any more I've lost quite a few of my stress habits, though drinking was not one of them, I appreciate the stress that they are all under with such unfulfilled, and despite what they claim, hopeless lives.
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  Has the Watchtower lost its credibility?

  by truthseeker in

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  child abuse, documentarys on watchtower cover-ups of child molestation, un scandal, disfellowshipping changes, flip-flop doctrines, loss of life due to refusing blood transfusions, disfellowshipping whistleblowers etc.. you name it, the watchtower has done it.. years ago, it was hard to hear anything bad about the society.

  other than a few "disgruntled ones" (tm) most people (in and out the org) had little bad to say about the dubs.. now, it's only "bad all the time.

  " everytime a news article on jw appears, it's usually bad.. it seems the only good media attention they get these days is coverage of their district conventions and the odd quickbuild.. have the attitudes of people changed towards jw's in your community?.

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  The Watchtower claimed to have credibility but it probably existed in their own delusions and other people not understanding properly what the JWs believed. Now there is more education and the net the light is shed a lot more clearly on the Organization and they look very shabby.

  The Organization lost all credibility with me when I watched the Panorama programme on coverups of child abuse. The Panorama team were trying to interview an elder from a congregation and he just walked away slowly and arrogantly from them and refused to speak to or acknowledge them at all once he had made his statement. I know this is what the Society tell them to do but the arrogance was sickening and told a story of its own.

  They are totally deluded as to their real position in society and for that matter the Universe.
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  Fortress Kingdom Halls

  by Gill in

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  a new kingdom hall has just been built very close to where we live.

  it is taking on the appearance of fort knox now, much like some other khs near us.

  the high fences with nasty sharp bits are just going up and there are floodlights on at night.

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  Thanks all. Paranoia is what I think of whenever I walk past this new KH. They still have the poor witnesses who go there on a security rota and they are now all exhausted and also from what I hear, complaining. Since they have all become dispirited with their tiredness they were complaining about the constant requests from the PO for more money and more volunteers and now they have given a different elder the job of asking for MORE please. I'm so glad we're not there any more.
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  Fortress Kingdom Halls

  by Gill in

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  a new kingdom hall has just been built very close to where we live.

  it is taking on the appearance of fort knox now, much like some other khs near us.

  the high fences with nasty sharp bits are just going up and there are floodlights on at night.

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  A new Kingdom Hall has just been built very close to where we live. It is taking on the appearance of Fort Knox now, much like some other KHs near us. The high fences with nasty sharp bits are just going up and there are floodlights on at night. NO other building around it is as fortified including a very busy dentist, electrical store etc. In fact it stands out for the amount of security it has. Does it really need eleven foot barbed fences all the way around? Are any KHs around you as heavily fortified and what might this be saying about the JW 'them and us' persecution syndrome mentality?

  England does suffer from a vandalism problem but could this be going just a little too far?