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  Got a visit from JW's on Saturday-redux

  by doodle-v in

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  i posted this on sunday but i think the demons got to it .

  i should have known that on a beautiful saturday morning that dubs we be crawling the neighborhood.

  we've been living in this neighborhood for about a year and a half and we are usually home on saturdays.

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  blacksheep

  Great job. Sounds like he cut short the call. You know what the dubs teach: whenever you find yourself getting too confused by someone, then shut it down. Obviously the person is being influenced by Satan.
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  Take George out of the equation.

  by Thunder Rider in

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  this whole blame the president thing is getting old.

  you "anyone but bush" people kill me.

  you're all so quick to condemn but have you any real constructive criticism?

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  blacksheep

  Realist,

  Frankly, I don't know why I even bother--it's clear in your personal Support the Terrorists world, you are very selective which facts you think "prove" your point and facts which you totally ignore.

  Regarding you proud assertion that there was absolutely NO connection between Iraq/Saddam/911, todays WSJ addresses just that. Deroy Murdock, Sr. Fellow at Atlas Econmic Research writes this:

  1. US prosecutors indcted Iraqi Abdul Rahman Yasin for crafting the bomb that exploded beneath the World Trade Center in February, 1993, killing six and injuring 1042. ABC News repored in July 1994 that Yasin returned after the blas to live freely in Iraq. Arabic-laguage papers discovered in Tikrit, Iraq confirm this.

  2. After running an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan, Abu Musab al Zarqawi reportedly fled the sinking Taliban, then received medical attention and convalesced in Baghdad for two months. He then opened an Ansar al-Islam base in northern Iraq and arranged the October 2002 assassination of US diplomat Lawrence Foley in Amman, Jordan.

  3. Phillippine authorities expelled Iraqi diplomat Hisham al Hussein in February 2003, after cell phone records showed he chatted with leaders of Abu Sayyaf, just before and just after this al-Aqeda franchise detonated a bomb in Zamboanga City on Oct. 2, 2002. It killed three, including U.S. soldier Mark Wayne Jackson.

  4. the March 19 Washington Times reported on a 20-page Arabic-language document from the Iraqui Intelligence Service. Stamped "top secret," it lists IIS "collaborators, among them "the Saudi Osama bin Laden." It says he is a "Saudi businessman and is in charge of the Saudi opposition in Afghanistan...And he is in good relationship with our section in Syria. Signed "Jabar," the 1993 record appeared authentic to a US official who reviewed it."

  Beyond THAT, YOU post the "links" which positively show that no meetings referenced above "took place." I'd be very interested to see the "proof" that a meeting(s) "never took place."
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  Take George out of the equation.

  by Thunder Rider in

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  this whole blame the president thing is getting old.

  you "anyone but bush" people kill me.

  you're all so quick to condemn but have you any real constructive criticism?

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  blacksheep

  even you will admit that the NYTimes doesn't make up thing like this.

  Lol, aside from the facts that indeed the NYT journalist HAVE been known to make things up, the article is devoid of any information.

  They go to great pains to suggest that "such a meeting never took place." That contradicts OTHER reputable information.

  People who are quick to suggest "something never happend" are necessarily suspect. Common sense raises flags. People who desperately want to believe something didn't happen will latch on to that.
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  Take George out of the equation.

  by Thunder Rider in

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  this whole blame the president thing is getting old.

  you "anyone but bush" people kill me.

  you're all so quick to condemn but have you any real constructive criticism?

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  blacksheep

  Realist that stale NWY article is nearly 2 years old. Beyond that, it provides NO details of any sort with which to refute anything. Lately this meeting and the Iraq 9/11 connection have continued to be explored.

  The NYT has an obvious bias, as we've discussed in the past. If you chose to view it as the Word of God, that's your right. But don't shove it down other people's throats.
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  To the Defenders of George Bush and the War in Iraq

  by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

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  would you be willing, if possible, to volunteer to fight in iraq?.

  are you encouraging your children or grandchildren to volunteer and fight?.

  please list your names below.

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  blacksheep

  i never said the taliban were friendly people or nice to woman! but they DID NOT commit the crimes plmrkyz claimed!

  Guess I was mislead by the single reference you made on the true condition of women under Taliban rule: they apparently are much better off than they were before.

  So, if you feel that disallowing women an education, beating/raping them for appearing in public without anyone but their husbands, forcing them to cover their entire body with heavy covering and beating them for inadvertently revealing any part of their body, disallowing them from working, including women who were formerly highly educated/trained...to be a "better existance" then so be it. I think your absolutely insensitive to the plight of women, esp in Arab countries..

  I'm startring to find your attempts to resorting to meaningly technicalities (as in, "they don't throw acid on women in ARAB countries, only India does that..." to be highly amusing. When you reveal that you do not know the facts about a situation, you try to save face with some "technical" point. LOL.
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  Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?

  by Larry in

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  daddy, why did we have to attack iraq?.

  questions and answers about foreign policy (and the u.s. invasion of iraq).

  anyway, saddam hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's not really a legitimate leader anyway.

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  blacksheep

  if you come up with a reasonable connection between european history and the current iraq war then i am willing to discuss it.

  And if you in future wish to call the US a uniquely "war-mongering" nation, then just keep European history in mind. Also keep in mind if want to throw out stats like 99.9% of wars are fought based on economics, you can use the above listing to explain you theory. Not that it has anything to do with the current war in Iraq. But you're welcome to go through the list to explain how THOSE wars were based soley on economics.
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  To the Defenders of George Bush and the War in Iraq

  by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

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  would you be willing, if possible, to volunteer to fight in iraq?.

  are you encouraging your children or grandchildren to volunteer and fight?.

  please list your names below.

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  blacksheep

  http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson052303.asp

  May 23, 2003 8:45 a.m. Middle East Tragedies Pressing ahead is our only choice.

  The images are jarring, the hypocrisies appalling, the rhetoric repulsive. Only in the Arab Middle East ? and the Islamic world in general ? are suicide-murderers operating and indeed canonized, even blessed with cash bonuses. An inveterate liar like Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf is lauded for his defense of a mass killer like Saddam Hussein ? and at last lampooned not on moral grounds, but because his yarns about thousands of dead Marines are finally exposed by the sound of American tanks rumbling his way. The last gassings in the modern world ? Nasser's in Yemen and Saddam's in Kurdistan and Iran ? were all Mideastern; so are promises of virgins in exchange for bombing women and children.

  Pick up any newspaper and the day's bombings, killings, and terror are most likely to have occurred somewhere in the Islamic world. The big, silly lie ? Jews caused 9/11, the
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  To the Defenders of George Bush and the War in Iraq

  by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

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  would you be willing, if possible, to volunteer to fight in iraq?.

  are you encouraging your children or grandchildren to volunteer and fight?.

  please list your names below.

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  blacksheep

  Oh, for Chirst's sake, Realist. This is getting tiresome. I find it quite ofensive that you have the gall to pick and sort to find some assinine BOOK that supposedly supports your Taliban-loved-women theory. Got news for you: there was a hue and cry from feminist groups about the treatment of Arab women BEFORE the Afghan war.

  You obviously are going to believe what you want to believe.

  http://www.echonyc.com/~onissues/su98goodwin.html

  February 27, 1998 --Thirty-thousand men and boys poured into the dilapidated Olympic sports stadium in

  http://www.feminist.org/afghan/facts.html

  The Taliban & Afghan Women: Background On September 27, 1996, the Taliban, an extremist militia, seized control of the capital of , , and violently plunged the occupied territories of into a brutal state of gender apartheid in which women and girls have been stripped of their basic human rights. "If this was happening to any other class of people around the world, there would be a tremendous outcry. We must make sure these same standards are applied when it is women and girls who are brutally treated." -Eleanor Smeal, President, Feminist Majority Foundation

  Gender Apartheid | Taliban in Opposition to Islam | Who Is the Taliban | US Corporate Interests | Humanitarian Crisis | FMF's Campaign

  Gender Apartheid - The Elimination of Women's Rights

  Upon seizing power, the Taliban instituted a system of gender apartheid effectively thrusting the women of into a state of virtual house arrest. Under Taliban rule women have been stripped of their visibility, voice, and mobility. When they took control in 1996, the Taliban initially imposed strict edicts that:

  • Banished women from the work force
  • Closed schools to girls in cities and expelled women from universities
  • Prohibited women from leaving their homes unless accompanied by a close male relative
  • Ordered the publicly visible windows of women's houses painted black and forced women to wear the burqa (or chadari) - which completely shrouds the body, leaving only a small mesh-covered opening through which to see
  • Prohibited women and girls from being examined by male physicians while at the same time, prohibited most female doctors and nurses from working. (Currently there are a few, selected female doctors allowed to operate in segregated wards.)
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  Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?

  by Larry in

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  daddy, why did we have to attack iraq?.

  questions and answers about foreign policy (and the u.s. invasion of iraq).

  anyway, saddam hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's not really a legitimate leader anyway.

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  blacksheep

  thanks for the effort! but this discussion is about the iraq war! if you want to discuss european history fine! i am up for it!

  Ah, good move to try to get as narrow a focus as possible so you don't have to address anything that might somehow conflict with your view of the US as "War-mongering." As though engaging in war is something new and unique to the US.
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  Privileges, are they really?

  by JH in

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  from the smallest to the biggest task in the organization, they will call it a privilege.

  cleaning the toilet, passing the microphone, saying a prayer in public and so on.

  did you consider each task they gave you to be a privilege?

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  blacksheep

  btw I was asked to hold a microphone yesterday and I refused - I politely said no thank you Yeah, I fell for that old "wanna hold a microphone" bit before.