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  Wasn't Saddam ousted for doing precisely this sort of thing?

  by Simon in

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  utterly disgusting.

  those responsible should be lined against a wall and shot.

  publicly.. i think that would win more hearts and minds than bombing cities and using gunships on civilian areas.. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4855930/.

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  as everyone who actually listens to news knows your statement is wrong. i posted the link to prove it. the socialists had said all along they will withdrew the troops. You are entirely missing the point. I am NOT denying that the socialists had claimed they would withdraw troups if elected. The problem is you are making an illogical LEAP. Simply because the majority of people (based on polls) supported the withdrawl of troups pre-election does NOT mean that this issue was the majority decider on who they would vote for. However, as a result of the bombing shortly before the elections, and as a result of the AQ threat that there would be more bombings if Spain didn't withdrawal, it DID become a much bigger deciding factor. You are obviously suggesting that you don't think AQ TIMED the bombings.
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  Wasn't Saddam ousted for doing precisely this sort of thing?

  by Simon in

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  utterly disgusting.

  those responsible should be lined against a wall and shot.

  publicly.. i think that would win more hearts and minds than bombing cities and using gunships on civilian areas.. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4855930/.

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  blacksheep

  ARE YOU INSANE??? I JUST POSTED THE FACT ABOVE! CAN YOU AT LEAST FOLLOW THE LINK AND READ THE QUOTES YOU *

  You can dispense with the insults. The article "proves" nothing about the election. So what if them majority of people opposed the Iraqi occuaption. Surely you don't think that THAT was the only issue they considered in deciding how to vote. You can't be that naive.

  But, by AlQ's bombing right before the election, he made SURE it was one of the key reasons.
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  Wasn't Saddam ousted for doing precisely this sort of thing?

  by Simon in

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  utterly disgusting.

  those responsible should be lined against a wall and shot.

  publicly.. i think that would win more hearts and minds than bombing cities and using gunships on civilian areas.. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4855930/.

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  blacksheep

  the reason why i find it pointless to discuss issues with you is that you don'T know crucial facts. and you are not willing to learn.

  You consistently confuse "facts" with your biased opinion.
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  Too Posh To Push

  by Englishman in

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  it seems that many uk women are opting to have their babies via a caesarian operation because they don't want to experience the pain of childbirth.. the national health service will only perform caesarians if there is a genuine medical neccessity for doing so.. women such as liz hurley and victoria beckham paid to have their babies via a c section even though it wasn't medically neccessary.

  http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/110/110256_doctors_set_to_tackle_too_posh_to_push_women.html.

  i wonder if they will regret it later in life?.

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  blacksheep

  It may seem silly- it's just a word - but "natural" vs. "unnatural" can mean alot.

  Not silly, you're bang on. Having a baby is miraculous, no matter what the method he came out. Carrying a child, having him/her develop inside you (with you're doing NOTHING, basically) is a miracle. The last 12-36 hours of how he/she got here is miniscule compared to the 9 months of seeing life grow. (

  No offense to adoptive parents: in fact the issue is the same. So you didn't experience the first few months/years of their life. You've experienced and help mold the most important parts!-- I'm going to digress here, forgive me. I actually came to tears when I heard a man on a talk radio show, who was explaining how he and his wife adopted a baby girl from China. When they got her, she was underweight, a bit sickly, reserved. He said, with emotion, that he was amazed at what a stable, loving environment could do. He said that it was like a "switch was flipped" after a few weeks. She was the happiest, most delightful child you could imagine. Of course, he acknowedged that, this is a parent for you.)

  Okay, finished with the digression. But I hope that illustrates the priorities when you think of children...

  I know that when I had a c-section, I did feel like somehow I failed in that whole process after 24 hours of labor and that having a c-section was an "unnatural" thing. I've spoken to many women along the way who felt the same way

  God, and this is what I hate. Go back a few decades, certainly 100 years, mothers where just thankful if they could make it through childbirth alive, and their infants survived at least through year 1. Now, today, with medical advances, we so take healthy childbirth for granted that we demand no less than "perfect" experiences, "perfect outcomes"....

  If mom gets a healthy baby, and she is healthy as well, I see NO reason to suggest one birth method is more valid than another.
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  Too Posh To Push

  by Englishman in

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  it seems that many uk women are opting to have their babies via a caesarian operation because they don't want to experience the pain of childbirth.. the national health service will only perform caesarians if there is a genuine medical neccessity for doing so.. women such as liz hurley and victoria beckham paid to have their babies via a c section even though it wasn't medically neccessary.

  http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/110/110256_doctors_set_to_tackle_too_posh_to_push_women.html.

  i wonder if they will regret it later in life?.

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  You know, come to think of it, I resent this whole "too posh to push" thing. (Esp since it was started by a male) Back out while you can, Englishman. Don't think you REALLY want to go there....

  It implies that it's women's DUTY to endure pain, labor, and all the atrocious pushing that must occur to bring a child into the world...

  So, guess I'm Posh with a capital P. And proud of it. Don't think I need to pay my "childbirth dues," thank you very much.

  (Of course, no offense to the fine women who enjoyed the experience and wouldn't have it any other way). But this is a country of "choice" no?
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  Too Posh To Push

  by Englishman in

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  it seems that many uk women are opting to have their babies via a caesarian operation because they don't want to experience the pain of childbirth.. the national health service will only perform caesarians if there is a genuine medical neccessity for doing so.. women such as liz hurley and victoria beckham paid to have their babies via a c section even though it wasn't medically neccessary.

  http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/110/110256_doctors_set_to_tackle_too_posh_to_push_women.html.

  i wonder if they will regret it later in life?.

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  I'm with Xena, an alert baby in your arms is pretty nice

  Sure, another stereotype of the c-section baby. Both mine were exrtremely alert, in fact the nurses couldn't wait to get me to them because they were screaming in hunger!

  My second was more alert than my first, had slightly better Apgars. I think that's because with the second (planned), there was no labor, minimal anesthesia, and less trauma from labor.
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  Too Posh To Push

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
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  it seems that many uk women are opting to have their babies via a caesarian operation because they don't want to experience the pain of childbirth.. the national health service will only perform caesarians if there is a genuine medical neccessity for doing so.. women such as liz hurley and victoria beckham paid to have their babies via a c section even though it wasn't medically neccessary.

  http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/110/110256_doctors_set_to_tackle_too_posh_to_push_women.html.

  i wonder if they will regret it later in life?.

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  blacksheep

  But- why anyone would want to volunteer for major surgery is beyond me.

  The whole "major surgery" thing is just a misnomer. How many "major surgeries" are you able to have with your being fulling awake?

  I told my story, above. Also, my sister had to very traumatic vaginals, and a thrid REAL emergency c-section (she was given general anethesia). As scary as that was, she told me she much preferred the c-section. With the vag's (and I was there for all three, believe me, it was tough for her), she was sore for a long time. With the c-sect, she was up and about in no time.

  Not tryng to suggest C-section is the only way to go, but I hate to see first time pregnant women think it's "major surgery" as in "major threat" with all the scare tactics that go along with it.

  If bringing a child into this world through your vagina is highly important to you fine! Bringing a healthy baby into the world with minimal risk/pain to mom and baby is the most important thing to me.
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  United We Stand?

  by patio34 in

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  what is the import of this saying that's used so widely in the us.

  is the message that dissent is wrong?

  that we must be united or else we'll fall?

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  blacksheep

  I define politics as anything to do with the decision making of our government or anything to do with any office of our government. Anything to do with government and all of the debates that exist therein.

  Well, with that in mind, I'd HIGHLY recommend you avoid all political threads like the plague. Not a psychologist, but just seems to be the logical solution.
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  Too Posh To Push

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems that many uk women are opting to have their babies via a caesarian operation because they don't want to experience the pain of childbirth.. the national health service will only perform caesarians if there is a genuine medical neccessity for doing so.. women such as liz hurley and victoria beckham paid to have their babies via a c section even though it wasn't medically neccessary.

  http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/110/110256_doctors_set_to_tackle_too_posh_to_push_women.html.

  i wonder if they will regret it later in life?.

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  blacksheep

  Why does everyone put "c-section"? Is it a bit like BBQ? Know one knows how to spell it???

  Does it matter that much to you? And fyi, "c-section" is the term anyone who knows anything about it uses today. Guess that tells us where you stand.
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  Do You Think George W. Bush Will Be Re-elected??

  by minimus in

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  i do.

  but i also thought, nixon, reagan and clinton were going to get re-elected.

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  blacksheep

  you are not listening to what i actually say and what the discussion is about. there is no point in continuing this.

  At least you're smart enough to quit when you're behind...