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(For some reason, I'm not able to get a good link)
Check out the "Bethel Classic with DC & Holocaust" - sounds like a truly upbuilding trip:
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blacksheep
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Fabulous vacation spot
by blacksheep inhttp://www.bethelcoachtours.com/english.htm#top
(for some reason, i'm not able to get a good link)
check out the "bethel classic with dc & holocaust" - sounds like a truly upbuilding trip:
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Everyone, please welcome "Jane Eyre" to the site...
by findingme inthis site has helped me a great deal, so i share my enthusiasm with others who were not aware of this site.
one such person is very close to me, and she is with us now:.
allow me to introdroduce..... jane eyre!.
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blacksheep
Welcome Jane Eyre!!
(one of my favorite books/characters, so you obviously have have exceptional taste!)
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Checklist of Theocratic Goals
by 4JWY intime to crack the whip!
admit it - you had this posted on your fridge!
i was just thinking - how many people have this many goals?
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blacksheep
This week's number 1 goal:
Overcoming my habit of drinking blood while saluting the flag and looking at pornography.
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New BLOOD Watchtower - June 15, 2004 Issue!
by UnDisfellowshipped inthe watchtower, june 15, 2004 issue, pages 14-24:.
" for the benefit of current readers, the answer is reprinted on pages 29-31 of this magazine.
19 near its conclusion, the reprinted answer on pages 29-31 says: "does the fact that opinions and conscientious decisions may differ mean that the issue is inconsequential?
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blacksheep
You cannot use your own conscience, your decision must be dictated by the most restrictive conscience in your Congregation.
Right, as you're lying there in the hospital bleeding to death, you can have someone survey the congregation to see if your having a blood transfusion might stumble anyone.
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This bothers me
by Soledad inhttp://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/10/national/10mlk.html?pagewanted=print&position=
may 10, 2004 honor for dr. king splits florida city, and faces reversal
by abby goodnough
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blacksheep
a white supremacist Web site is praising the Council's change of heart.
Surely you don't think that the Council reversed its decision based on seeking approval from a white supremacist group. Obviously, there were people who had non-legitimate reasons for not changing the street name, but there were very many legitimate concerns as well. My guess is that the council took the legitimate concerns (of which there were many).
Trying to push an agenda through without consulting/discussing it with the people who will be affected by it is pretty much doomed to fail, and unfortunately, the fallout took many forms. Again, you don't just ramrod something like this.
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This bothers me
by Soledad inhttp://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/10/national/10mlk.html?pagewanted=print&position=
may 10, 2004 honor for dr. king splits florida city, and faces reversal
by abby goodnough
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blacksheep
Is Blacksheep feeling guilty or something. Or maybe your just angry at stupidity the way I am. It would help to get a perspective on the 'real' history of this country and understand why different people feel the way they do on this subject.
Guilty? Guilty for what? If all that it takes to erase history and make people feel better about everything is to RENAME a street, then bring it on. It would indeed be worth it.
The problem, I repeat, is that one woman decides that a street name needs to change, the council votes it any without asking anyone. All of a sudden, the street's name changes, which is costly to change and disrupts people's lives (oh, I know, such minor "inconveniences shouldn't matter to anyone who isn't a "racist.")
The bottom line, is at the end of the day, renaming the street is NOT going to elminate prejudice and racism; in fact, how it has been handled so far has probably done more to promote such problems.
Here's an interesting article, where a Latino man is against renaming a street in honor of another admired Latino. Hopefully you can be a bit more open minded about the impact such changes can have on people as opposed to pulling out the "racism" lable.
The folly of renaming
streetsOLD habits die hard, specially the bad ones. This is true of city councils as it is of individuals.
Take that strange tendency of councils to change the name of streets for the flimsiest of reasons. One example is New York Street in Cubao, Quezon City. It carried that name for close to half a century, if not longer. But just a few days ago, all the street names bearing the name New York Street were changed to Pablo P. Reyes Sr. Street in the blink of an eye, and without so much as the courtesy of a public hearing.
That a man named Pablo P. Reyes Sr. is to be so honored or remembered is not the issue here. The issue has to do with the unreasonableness of changing street names that have become part of the lives of those residing on those streets. Common decency requires that honoring a man by renaming a street after him should be undertaken with responsible care so as not to offend the sensibilities of those who live there on account of their shared affinity with its previous name.
There is such a thing as having a sense of place, which can be as important as the reason for being. One's address follows that of a person's name. It is where he is. Changing a street's name is not as simple as changing one's shirt. To arbitrarily change a street name is to change one's known address. It is a source of confusion for it affects a whole bunch of documents like driver's license, passport, identification card, insurance policy, land title, map, stationeries, correspondence, among others.
In Quezon City, there must be other streets whose names don't carry much meaning and significance, and where it might have been more appropriate to make a change. Yet, they have chosen New York, named after the city in the United States. One must be deprived of some basic school education not to know the important facts about this city.
There are definitely more important matters the city government can attend to than to displace persons by changing the name of the street where they live. As Quijano de Manila once observed in a piece he wrote in March 1961 about the renaming of city street names, it is like going to sleep in one street, and waking up in another. But it is much worse than that. The indiscriminate renaming of city streets, in effect, reduces the status of its tax-paying citizenry from rightful inhabitants of a place to mere vagrants. It is high time this official malpractice is put to a full stop.
--AUGUSTO C. GALANG, past president, Rotary Club of Cubao West, 11 New York St., Cubao, Quezon City -
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Does posting here build your character???Has It Help you in any way???
by frankiespeakin in.
i think when we post here we are rubing each other by a kind of energy that seems to be moving us in a good direction,, .
it is very weird but has anybody else felt this??
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blacksheep
Yes 'n No. I love relating to people here. But, geeze, I get addicted and think I spend to much time here when I should be fulfilling my other (VAST) responsibilities!
But so WHAT! Really, I cannot say enough about forums such as these. I wish they had been around when I was REALLY soul searching years ago./
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This bothers me
by Soledad inhttp://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/10/national/10mlk.html?pagewanted=print&position=
may 10, 2004 honor for dr. king splits florida city, and faces reversal
by abby goodnough
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I did say that. re-read my post (and the article). my point was that the objections are baseless and are racially motivated (see below)
I read your post, and also the comments of some of the people who were complaining of the practicality of the issue. You continue to insist that any efforts to oppose legislated changes of one's street are simply racially motivated, you have no credibility as far as I am concerned.
There are SO many more ways to honor people than shoving meaningless change down their throats. And if they don't comply, calling them "racist". Ugh!
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Torture to find WMD?
by Greenpalmtreestillmine indo you think those iraqi's were tortured to find wmd?.
the rank and file soldier was following the orders of the hired interrogation contractors (who are outside of military law) to soften up the prisoners.
what were they looking for this past year?
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Read very carefully, and see if you can find anything I said that would support your asking me what you just asked me.
I wasn't going to say anything till you confirmed it (by mentioning "the 'one nation, under god' doctrine"), but obviously, your comment to greenpalmtrees:
Actually, gettin' tired. What I believe I asked GPTSM was to prove that the great patriots she referenced DIDN'T believe in God. GPSTM suggested that our great founding pats would turn over in their graves at any suggestion that a president was "guided by God."
The ball's in her (his?--don't recall the gender, so sorry) court. And, interestingly enough, check out our beloved JFK's religioius beliefs and overt statements that he's chartered to do god's will and provide a "shining example of freedom" blah, blah, blah.
I'ts NOTHING new. As he/she's trying to make it appear.
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I need some help...
by Country Girl ini really hesitate to post this, because it's very weak for me to ask.
i am asking because i am emotionally distraught.
i am losing another brother.
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blacksheep
((((Countrygirl)))) You can always turn to us on this board. Not that it's near what you are experiencing, but my husband just buried his brother--he was quite young. I didn't know the man well--he lives far away, but I found myself highly upset and emotional about it, nevertheless.
Please send me a message if you feel like it. You are not alone. Don't feel that you are weak. You are HUMAN, and you are going through a tough time. You NEED to turn to others for support.
