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  What was your experience of working at an assembly hall build?

  by Heartofaboy in

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  i volunteered to help out at an assembly hall build about an hour away from where i live.. i thought it would be an amazing experience & was looking forward to it very much.. when i went to reception i was asked if i had any trade skills, it was just about then i began to realise because i had no 'blue collar' trade skills i would be treated as a lesser person.........maybe even a slight nuisance.. as all the 'brothers' busily carried out their 'manly' tasks it became quite a discouraging experience because i found other 'unskilled' jw's guarded their jobs very closely & said they did not need any help.. if it was a place of christian joy i did not find.. .

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  In the 1950s –1960s, Kingdom Halls were built the old-fashioned way, not pre-assembled walls, etc.

  So, my husband an experienced carpenter would always be involved and then quickly forgotten when the building was complete. Nada.

  When there was shrubbery to be transplanted by non-tradesman, they weren’t available or willing. Working all week, as a carpenter was

  then hard and grueling, no coffee breaks and no automatic hammers. So one Saturday, building a new Kingdom Hall he stayed for the

  morning and called it quits realizing there were better uses of his talents and time.
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  H/O BLOODLESS SURGERY, CLEVELAND, OHIO

  by Sobeit in

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  a little bit of cleveland history: bloodless surgery in cleveland, ohio, can be accredited to gene tenke who approached and eventually convinced st. vincent charity hospital to perform bloodless surgery for jehovahs witnesses.

  cleveland clinic several years later followed suit.

  but 50-60 years ago, richard sheppard delivered babies for pregnant j.w.

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  Sobeit

  Sorry you took offense. Just a little history of what we had to experience to deliver a child as

  it was difficult to find obstreticians that would cooperate way back then.

  Sent you a PM
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  H/O BLOODLESS SURGERY, CLEVELAND, OHIO

  by Sobeit in

  1. jw
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  a little bit of cleveland history: bloodless surgery in cleveland, ohio, can be accredited to gene tenke who approached and eventually convinced st. vincent charity hospital to perform bloodless surgery for jehovahs witnesses.

  cleveland clinic several years later followed suit.

  but 50-60 years ago, richard sheppard delivered babies for pregnant j.w.

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  Sobeit

  A little bit of Cleveland history: Bloodless surgery in Cleveland, Ohio, can be accredited to Gene Tenke who approached and eventually convinced St. Vincent Charity Hospital to perform bloodless surgery for Jehovah’s Witnesses. Cleveland Clinic several years later followed suit. But 50-60 years ago, Richard Sheppard delivered babies for pregnant J.W. women who did not want blood transfusions. (Do not think this applied to cesearean sections.)

  Richard Sheppard was the brother of Sam Sheppard who was convicted of killing of his wife, Marilyn, in a notorious trial which was overturned by attorney F. Lee Bailey all the way to the Supreme Court. (Prior to his murder trial, Sam Sheppard may have performed bloodless surgery for J.W.s but not certain.)
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  If you're a gardener ...

  by compound complex in

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  do all your plants grow?

  i recently asked a friend about certain gardening problems and wondered if, despite all your own green thumb efforts, some of your plants - potted or in ground - remain stunted in their growth.. thanks!.

  coco coleus.

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  Have been gardening for over 50 years and never had such a disastrous year as the past two years. Thought I kept replenishing the soil; but think I will have to let it rest next year. Then two big bucks (male deer) thought everything in the yard was theirs and their offspring would come univited and nibble whatever they could. Plus the bunnies would slip in the fence. Put up one of the 8' screens, but it was too late as this year's heat stunted whatever was growing. Usually, I have tomatos and cucumbers to give the neighbors--not this year.

  Everyone's lawn is yellow from the draught and heat. So, we will reseed the lawn and add top soil. Hope to find some manure to build up the garden.

  Gardening helps keep you in shape and there is nothing like fresh vegetables to eat.

  Different areas of the country favor certain plants and flowers I find. Where I live day lillies, irises, peonies grow in wild abandoment.

  Master Gardener program in the U.S. is well worth the time and effort.

  Wish you all the best and don't lose heart.
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  The pieces finally come together

  by man in black in

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  this afternoon i got a letter stating that i was accepted to accompany a ww 2 veteran on a flight to washington dc to visit the ww2 memorial in september.. www.honorflight.org.

  i also was called to check up on the health of several horses that some friends of my wife adopted, they are very underweight belgians, and these.

  new owners want to make sure that they are taken care of.

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  My contribution to this dialogue would be the maturity to look at former JW’s weaknesses and their snobbery and realize what imperfect human beings they were and nothing more. No more wondering what was my failing or shortcomings might have been; but that independent thinking gets you condemned and leads to some measure of wisdom eventually
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  TO VERDENER aka WORLDS APART

  by Sobeit in

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  niels arden oplev who filmed "the girl with dragon tatoo" also filmed a movie about danish jehovah's witnesses.

  not being showing anywhere yet; but when someone gets to see it, please review it for us..

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  Niels Arden Oplev who filmed "The Girl with Dragon Tatoo" also filmed a movie about Danish Jehovah's Witnesses. Not being showing anywhere yet; but when someone gets to see it, please review it for us.
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  A practical lesson on shunning.

  by strawberry cake in

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  today i decided to visit a friend of mine who i met when she was my study.

  (she has no intentions of making a commitment, but still continues studying with old pioneer 'friends' of mine.

  well it just so happens that these 2 sisters were there.

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  I am old lady who left the organization over 40 years ago and am stunned and saddened to hear of such behavior.
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  8/19/2008 DEAR ABBY

  by Sobeit in

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  don't miss today's dear abby column.

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  Sobeit

  Don't miss today's Dear Abby column
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  New Yorker Cartoon

  by Sobeit in

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  in the latest issue of the new yorker, october 8, 2007, on page 69 is a cartoon of a kingdom hall with a "no soliciting" sign in front of it.. this is the issue with seymour m. hersh's article on iran..

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  In the latest issue of The New Yorker, October 8, 2007, on page 69 is a cartoon of a Kingdom Hall with a "No Soliciting" sign in front of it.

  This is the issue with Seymour M. Hersh's article on Iran.
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  WHA WAS THE TURNING POINT FOR YOU IN JWS

  by chuckyy in

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  hi.. just wondering what it was that first made you realise that jws didnt have the absolute "truth"?

  was there a specific event/turning point for you or was it a moment of enlightenment?.

  chukky.

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  Sobeit

  When I was16 years old (60 years ago), I could not make sense of the countdown for 1914, or their interpretation of Revelation; but stayed as I felt there much love exhibited in the organization. But 30 years later when asked by a social worker if my "religion" had nursing homes for their elderly, I was stunned to realize what other religions provided and mine had none for my dying mother. By then Knorr was president and need more be said?

  Up until the above, was an obedient, observant witness who thought that eventually the doctrine would be clear to me one day and the Watchtower would make sense; but that never happened. And then the treatment of many in the congregation who were experiencing difficulties made me feel that I did not want to be part of such an organization; better off in the world.