Posts by blondie

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retrospect on yesterday's wt "study" 29.

by waton in

go- teach.

par.1 : marching orders given to 500 attendees, none of them anointed, but 11 partakers, jesus taught and served people with an "earthly hope" and the commission to go was not as wt now claims a mandate to the gb members; the os only being supposed supporters.

4) new disciple stops drinking.

blondie

A little sidepoint (there are no "new scrolls" per the bible)

Does the WTS bible say "new scroll" or just "scrolls"? Most of the time the WTS just leaves out any quote marks.

Note how the WTS punctuates it here:

new "scrolls" putting quotes only around scrolls not with the word new, since that phrase does not occur in the bible.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101995030?q=%22new+scrolls%22&p=sen

New “scrolls” will then come into use. Evidently these are God’s written instructions that will serve as a basis for educating earth’s inhabitants. (Revelation 20:12)

Revelation 20:12 says

And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and scrolls were opened. But another scroll was opened; it is the scroll of life. The dead were judged out of those things written in the scrolls according to their deeds.

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We pray for the governing body

by StephaneLaliberte in

since when has it become cool to pray for the gb?

i noticed that at the begining of my fade back in 2015, it had already been there for a good while and was already getting on my nerves.

i means, i grew up in it, but can't remember much further than the 90s and i don't remember this being always in the payers.

blondie

As to saying brothers when the WTS means brothers and sisters:

This has been an old, old problem that switches back and forth. For awhile the WTS was more diligent putting "brothers and sisters" and other double gender groupings.

My mother told me about an "anointed sister" who would sit in the front and every time the person on the stage said "brothers" when they meant brothers and sisters, she would say under her breath "and sisters." Everyone could hear her, that that was over 60 years ago.

Part of it that men from a certain era were trained by the vocabulary used by others around them. I could tell when a male member of the WTS would say men and women, he or she, brothers and sisters that he was from a generation that was used to hearing both genders mentioned where that was meant.

Checking the WOL with search, I still see frequent use of the phrase "brothers and sisters" now. But occasionally one slips through perhaps because an older male jw was in charge of the writing.

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Another silly Bible story...this time brought to you by Moses

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

does this silly bible story make any sense after you take off your rose-colored glasses?.

moses comes down from the mountain with two freshly made tablets of stone written with the finger of god.

one commandment on the stone tablet reads '' you must not kill/murder.

blondie

David was an adulterer and tried to hide it by murdering the woman's husband. Both murder and adultery were capital crimes, punishment death. No mercy for other Israelites who committed adultery or murder even if they had been merciful to others. Yet David go off free of punishment, but the baby died, David's wives would be humiliated publicly, etc.

Remember he conducted a census too knowing god told him not too, and one of David's generals warned him but David ignored him.

God punished David by having him pick from several punishments, so David picked a plague, and 70,000 people died for David's sin.

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The urgent, lifesaving work of Jehovah's witnesses......hardly!!

by RayoFlight2014 in

since june 2016 i have kept a journal of my encounters with jehovah's witnesses at my door or in my street.

i'm a a nosey bastard and a bit of a home body when i'm not at work so i don't miss much of who comes past my home or knocks at the door.. will and dill.. they came to my door on a wednesday morning around 10:30am mid june 2016, i was on afternoon shift and had been reading bart ehrman "misquoting jesus".. what follows is the conversation as best i could recount after they left;.

of the two young gentlemen, dillon, the younger in appearance introduced will and himself, he then proceeded to present me with a brochure about world conditions supposedly getting worse.. me: i could stand at the door nodding in agreement if you like?

blondie

Vidiot, exactly.

They don't really go door-to-door to actually convert or recruit new members.

They do it to prove their loyalty.

The average jw figures they don't have to convert/recruit anyone to get everlasting life. Even the WTS tells jws not to be discouraged if they have never found a sheep and brought them into the fold (haha).

That is why few make effective return visits and have no desire to take on a bible student and be committed to some time each week at a designated time. Most jw parents don't have studies with their own children, probably lie about it to others.

The WTS has had quite a few articles, painstakingly outlining to their members, how to make effective return visits and start and conduct bible studies (pardon the jw vocabulary).

I don't think members even have to turn in reporting slips on each bible study to be monitored by the elders.

But as long as they report one hour a month, their everlasting life in the paradise is confirmed and/or their survival through Armageddon.

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Merger aftermath

by Rattigan350 in

a couple of months ago, i reported on my congregation being disolved and merged with another.. on sept 1, cong b merged with cong a using the same hall, thereafter using cong a's meeting times.

also nearby cong c moved into the hall using cong b's meeting times and cong c's kh is being put up for sale.. i've since been to both sunday meetings and both midweek meetings.

at all, the parking lot is totally full, cars have to park around the corner and on the street.

blondie

The WTS policy in the past was to keep a congregation numbers no more than 100, supposedly not to put a burden on the elders regarding shepherding. But now it seems money rules, not spiritual health (if it ever did).

It should help some jws fall through the cracks more easily.

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We pray for the governing body

by StephaneLaliberte in

since when has it become cool to pray for the gb?

i noticed that at the begining of my fade back in 2015, it had already been there for a good while and was already getting on my nerves.

i means, i grew up in it, but can't remember much further than the 90s and i don't remember this being always in the payers.

blondie

We can pray for the GB publicly, but not individual jws who are having challenges such as severe illness. If it is done, the COBOE has to approve it first.

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question about KH finance

by peacefulpete in

i've been free of the jws for many years now and have a question about kh finance.. 1. is it true that all khs belong to the wt now?

2. when remodeling is done who pays for it?.

3. how are utilities paid?

blondie

As to who "owns" the KHs, assembly halls, etc., in the US, a religious non-profit does not "own" property but administers the funds and property. No individual owns it either, whether in the head organization or the local organization. Trustees (3 elders) from the congregation in which the KH and property is in, administer local requirements as to title and taxes. The WTS as the parent non-profit only can at their discretion dissolve any congregation and dispose of funds and properties putting it back into the main funds.

As far as the utilities, I have never know the WTS to pay them then reimburse the congregation. The congregation is responsible for paying these bills in a timely fashion. If 2 or more share the same building, a maintenance committee is formed with an elder from each congregation serving as the "maintenace" overseer and coordinating how the utility bills will be paid. Using split evenly, but sometimes a smaller congregation (Spanish for example) may pay less or not at all at the discretion of the other congregation(s).

The WTS still has to approve all remodeling and building of new KHs. Of course, basic maintenance does not fall under that.

I only know what my husband says he knows from his years as an accounts servant.

Hopefully, someone else will simplify the info in the documents Atlantis has provided. The legalese is so complicated I wonder how any elder could decipher it.

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The urgent, lifesaving work of Jehovah's witnesses......hardly!!

by RayoFlight2014 in

since june 2016 i have kept a journal of my encounters with jehovah's witnesses at my door or in my street.

i'm a a nosey bastard and a bit of a home body when i'm not at work so i don't miss much of who comes past my home or knocks at the door.. will and dill.. they came to my door on a wednesday morning around 10:30am mid june 2016, i was on afternoon shift and had been reading bart ehrman "misquoting jesus".. what follows is the conversation as best i could recount after they left;.

of the two young gentlemen, dillon, the younger in appearance introduced will and himself, he then proceeded to present me with a brochure about world conditions supposedly getting worse.. me: i could stand at the door nodding in agreement if you like?