Posts by blondie

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Merger / Sale After - Mathematics

by waton in

wt inc derives a steady stream of income from the "kingdom" halls the took out of the hands of the builder founder congregations.

why sell ?

do they anticipate that the stream will continue even if the asset is gone?.

blondie

Actually, as they sell off property and have to cash flow through interest on investments, or dividends, or cash donations, they are heading to a crisis, but more slowly.

Imagine if your house were paid for, sold for $300,000

If you used to pay off debt and monthly expenses, eventually you be in the hole again if you had no other source of income, wages, income from rental property, a contracted amount of donations, etc.

The WTS is not going to survive without cash flow, in their case hopefully from donations, more from not such rich members but who are consistent in donating.

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it has been mentioned before but since we have been discussing environmental issues on another thread, i thought it might be timely to discuss rev 11:18 which has recently become a popular text for those christians concerned about environmental threats of pollution and climate change.

is this passage being interpreted correctly?

did the writer somehow anticipate the modern environmental situation, or did he intend something more in keeping with the bible's general concerns of morality and sin?.

blondie

Watchtower polluting, please say it is not so!

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/219895/article-about-watchtower-farms-todays-record-online

SHAWANGUNK — State authorities are overseeing the investigation of chemicals and debris that were found buried at Watchtower Farms.
The state Department of Environmental Conservation said the pollution was found at three different sites on the 1,141-acre property. Each of the pollution sites covers roughly 2 acres.
Matt Hubicki, a DEC environmental engineer, said hints of the contamination were found in 2007 while the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization was building an expansion.
“They found some drums while digging the foundation for one of their residential facilities,” Hubicki said. The group immediately reported the drums to the DEC.
An investigation found that several 55-gallon drums contained chemicals, including inks and solvents that were used at Watchtower’s printing press off Red Mills Road. The gigantic printing operation dates back to the 1970s, and it produces all the religious literature that the group distributes in North America.
The drums contained benzene, xylene and other chemicals that have been shown to affect human health. Construction debris and polluted soil was also uncovered at the sites.
DEC officials said it appears that Watchtower workers moved the toxic soil to these sites when printing chemicals spilled decades ago. Then they used farm machinery to aerate the soil and evaporate the contaminants.
An investigation that began this month will determine the scope of the pollution and clean-up options. Watchtower will have to pay for the cleanup; the cost has not yet been determined. The site is currently enrolled in the state Brownfield Cleanup Program.
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My "shameless" relationship with my ex wife

by Jayk in

i've thought about keeping this to myself but i'm still confused on what i should do.. my ex wife(never been a jw) and myself(raised in the org till 16)have been reconnecting these past few weeks.

we been divorced for almost 10 years, we got married when we where pretty young, and it didnt last long.. fast forward 10 years, her and i have been reconnecting and things are getting semi serious.. she got remarried, divorced again, and recently broke up with her gf.

so in the past 10 years she has only been with 3 people (including myself) and here comes me "a sucker with no self esteem".

blondie

You can do better. Walk away and don't explain yourself.

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2019--Two New Documents Arrived!

by Atlantis in

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2019 congregation field service and meeting attendance report-s-1-e. https://docdro.id/tosesq0.

2019 elders meet with regular pioneers--special pioneers-and field missionaries.-s-211-20-e. https://docdro.id/or4rg4l.

what is the teaching toolbox mentioned in above elders meeting documents?

blondie

I always wondered why when attendance was taken, that there was not a list of names and a box would be checked off if the person wasn't there and then tabulate how often individuals missed meetings and check with them.

After all, there were many jws who were doing it unofficially and gossiping about it.

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You May Now Embrace the Bride!

by jp1692 in

just yesterday, a pimi jw that i've known for years told me that at the end of a wedding they recently attended in pennsylvania, usa, the "brother" that officiated the ceremony concluded by saying to the bride and groom, "you may now embrace the bride.

no kissing.

just a hug.

blondie

I wonder why hugs are allowed when the WTS says even marriage mates "might" only be allowed to hold hands (discreetly, that is no one sees them doing it) at the meeting but not embracing each other, isn't that a hug?

*** w09 11/15 pp. 6-7 par. 19 What Do Your Prayers Say About You? ***

There may be a proper time and place for some actions that would be inappropriate at a Christian meeting. (Eccl. 3:1) For instance, suppose someone sought to have all in a group link arms or hold hands during such a prayer. This might offend or distract some, including visitors who do not share our beliefs. Some marriage mates might discreetly hold hands, but if they embraced each other during public prayer, those who got a glimpse of such conduct might be stumbled. They might think or get the impression that the couple was focusing on their romantic relationship instead of reverence for Jehovah. Out of deep respect for him, let us therefore “do all things for God’s glory” and avoid conduct that could distract, shock, or stumble anyone.—1 Cor. 10:31, 32; 2 Cor. 6:3.

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As Seen On TV....Have You Ever Tried Any Of Their Products?

by minimus in

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if you have , was it worth what you paid?

?.

blondie

tiki, I would suggest just looking at local stores, specializing in garden equipment. I'm sure there are other expanding hoses for sale. I buy online from Gardners Supply.

https://www.gardeners.com/

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Ruin those Ruining th Earth

by peacefulpete in

it has been mentioned before but since we have been discussing environmental issues on another thread, i thought it might be timely to discuss rev 11:18 which has recently become a popular text for those christians concerned about environmental threats of pollution and climate change.

is this passage being interpreted correctly?

did the writer somehow anticipate the modern environmental situation, or did he intend something more in keeping with the bible's general concerns of morality and sin?.

blondie

I did a fairly good look at WOL and this is the first quote of Revelation 11:18 that connects to the idea of pollution. Remember that pollution was not a big topic in the world in general, the WTS tends to jump on the band wagon with their ideas when it becomes an issue outside the WTS and could attract attention to their publications. But not too long ago the WTS (Walkill) was charged with polluting their own property.

1971

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1971683?q=revelation+11%3A18&p=sen

Science and technology boast of material progress, but for half a century they have in fact been ruining the earth. (Rev. 11:18) Self-seeking materialists have played havoc with the productive land, polluting air and soil, river and sea, and decimating the living resources of the earth

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wt and money

by zeb in

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well she went off to the big convention this morning.

as she left i ventured a bare tiny 'dont give them money' 'they have millions.

' she spun back, (we are on pensions.).

blondie

DOC

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WTS Carts Have Competition

by blondie in

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https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2019/09/in-virginia-american-atheists-upstage-jehovahs-witnesses/.

according to american atheists, their organisation had received multiple complaints that the jws were proselytising outside various government facilities.. said aa’s virginia state director larry mendoza:.

we would rather that government property be free of religious speech altogether.

blondie

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2019/09/in-virginia-american-atheists-upstage-jehovahs-witnesses/

According to American Atheists, their organisation had received multiple complaints that the JWs were proselytising outside various government facilities.

Said AA’s Virginia State Director Larry Mendoza:

We would rather that government property be free of religious speech altogether. However, to ensure religious equality for everyone, including atheists, I applied for equal access to two separate DMV locations, and will continue to request access on a regular basis

AA’s request was accepted by the Commissioner of the Virginia DMV Richard D Holcomb on September 11.

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Merger aftermath

by Rattigan350 in

a couple of months ago, i reported on my congregation being disolved and merged with another.. on sept 1, cong b merged with cong a using the same hall, thereafter using cong a's meeting times.

also nearby cong c moved into the hall using cong b's meeting times and cong c's kh is being put up for sale.. i've since been to both sunday meetings and both midweek meetings.

at all, the parking lot is totally full, cars have to park around the corner and on the street.

blondie

But do they invite df'd members to go up to the front?