As the public and the legal system are getting educated more and more about this problem in the WTS, it will become harder to hide it from the non-jw public, encourage more victims to come forward, and hopefully make more jws wake up to it.
Posts by blondie
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13Article: Church elder sentenced to 80 years in prison for sex assaults in Cleburne county
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.fox16.com/news/church-elder-sentenced-to-80-years-in-prison-for-sex-assaults-in-cleburne-county/.
church elder sentenced to 80 years in prison for sex assaults in cleburne county.
by: tyler thomason.
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1975 and 1981?
by Steel inis it true that in 1975 the watchtower falsely predicted the end of the world and a great number of the membership quit and just a few years later they turned disassociation into disfellowshipping?
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blondie
dubstepped, yes Ray was asked to leave Bethel in 1981 and an announcement was made in the KM.
But...he and his wife, started associating with a congregation in Gadsen, AL. Shortly after that, an elder that knew Ray quite well before the event in 1981, disassociated himself. Perhaps because of that, the WTS realized they had to make Ray like kryptonite to other jws.
So they made a new policy, that jws who associated with disassociated jws, could be disfellowshipped for that and made it retroactive. Ray and his wife, had continued to associate socially with this man and his jw wife, while still attending that congregation, without any repercussion. But after the policy changed, Ray was df'd retroactively. But Ray's wife was not df'd although she had also associated socially with that disassociated man. After the WTS df'd Ray, he started writing his books, which first came out in 1984. Ray stopped thinking that somehow the WTS could be redeemed.
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1975 and 1981?
by Steel inis it true that in 1975 the watchtower falsely predicted the end of the world and a great number of the membership quit and just a few years later they turned disassociation into disfellowshipping?
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blondie
Thanks, Tameria 2001. When my never-raised-jw husband listened to that for the first time, and heard:
Stay Alive til '75
He just started laughing.
He has a revised post-1975 chant:
No more after '34 (the reference is to 1914 + 120 years given humans before their destruction by God
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My appreciation e-mail to Irwin Zalkin Law firm ( Child abuse )
by smiddy3 inhi friends ,i sent an e-mail to the irwin zalkin law firm in the usa ,i`m in australia ,thanking them for going to bat for all those sexually abused in the jehovah`s witness religion.. just letting them know that what they are achieving is not going unnoticed by ex -jw`s around the world with the success they are having and hopefully will continue to do.. that was yesterday .. today i received a reply ,thanking me for my kind words ,and that they are doing the best they can.. it was nice for such a prompt reply.. i just thought i would share that with you all..
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blondie
I will post this separately, which was my first reason for coming on here.
I have seen just today an article from ABC news regarding victims of sexual abuse in the WTS and how it was hidden; I have seen more and more on my Google News, and other news sources. I anticipate many more. I was glad to seen how many showed up at the same time with the news about the WTS conventions this summer. If jws are searching the news using some form of "jehovah's" or "watchtower", they would have to close their eyes and move away. But then jws seem to have a problem viewing pornography why not negative news about the WTS.
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My appreciation e-mail to Irwin Zalkin Law firm ( Child abuse )
by smiddy3 inhi friends ,i sent an e-mail to the irwin zalkin law firm in the usa ,i`m in australia ,thanking them for going to bat for all those sexually abused in the jehovah`s witness religion.. just letting them know that what they are achieving is not going unnoticed by ex -jw`s around the world with the success they are having and hopefully will continue to do.. that was yesterday .. today i received a reply ,thanking me for my kind words ,and that they are doing the best they can.. it was nice for such a prompt reply.. i just thought i would share that with you all..
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blondie
I don't why any jw or ex-jw would think they would have a pipeline into the cases in their old or current congregation. The BOEs I have known are very careful to cover this up. Who really cares outside the WTS, whether some jw has committed "fornication" or adultery. These are very common outside the WTS, in countries like the US, Canada, UK, and Australia, and Europe. But child sexual abuse, even the Catholic church cannot avoid the hammer coming down on their head and they have more resources to hide it, but not any more.
Some elders or ex-elders might have a pipeline into their own congregation but individual congregations are not likely to air their "dirty" laundry to other BOEs.
Even if this only occurred once in every congregation, how many children would that be, how many congregations are there now, in 2015, 115,400. So would 115,400 victims of child sexual abuse be enough to make it a big enough problem to do something about?
There are quite a few ex-jws at the forefront of combating the WTS past and current efforts to hide child sexual abuse in their midst, getting info from all over the world and working with non-jw lawyers to reveal the extent of the problem.
They know how extensive this is. If you wonder how extensive, contact Barbara Anderson and she might be able to give you the statistics.
If have misunderstood anyone's position on the reality of child sexual abuse in the WTS, I apologize, but if you have diminished its reality, shame on you. You have become part of the problem.
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Where are the funds going to come from? Warwick Expansion
by HiddenPimo inso with the news that they are remodeling patterson and expanding warwick, where are the funds going to come from?.
could this be a ruse like the need for thousands of kingdom halls proclaimed a few years back only to be replaced with the we realized the halls were not at capacity and the great sell-off began?.
maybe the hope is going to be that the sheep will give give give and then all of the sudden, after prayerful consideration the gb have determined that the current resources are sufficient to create the needed media and content.. my bet is that in 10 years it will all be consolidated to warwick and walkill and patterson will be sold to who i have no idea, but they own a ton of property in upstate ny..
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blondie
The WTS has been known to take out loans from non-jw banks etc using their property as collateral.
Since the WTS seems to be dunning their members for money despite the sale of some of their properties, I wonder if jws are actually heeding the calls for more donations. Since it is voluntary and somewhat confidential, how do they know who isn't donating? I doubt that tithing is an option unless they backdoor it like expecting congregation donations to be the same as their forgiven mortgage payment, oh they do that already. But then it is only at the congregation level not by individuals.
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What would happen if Jepthas daughter disobeyed and got married anyway?
by nowawake14 inwould jehovah kill her?
or would she be shunned by her religion as a whole?
say anything you would think of..
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blondie
Pete Zahut, can I assume you are a man? Then, I can understand why it doesn't matter to you. Women might not view it the same way. It is a reminder to jw women how low they are in the hierarchy in the WTS. Probably lower than a dog.
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2019 Shepherd The Flock Of God and More!
by Atlantis in2019 information-for-expectant-mothers-s-401-e. 2019-addendum-to-shepherd-book-sfla-e_bi2019-shepherd-the-flock-of-god-october-sfl_e2020-kingdom-ministry-school-program-elders-pgme-20-e. instructions to access my profile.
https://we.tl/t-rex13nnhax atlantis!
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blondie
Thanks, Atlantis. My husband reminded me when he was still an elder, I read on JWN about the non-letter that would be read to the BOE at the next CO visit; about taking a blood transfusion would no longer be a df'ing offense but an act of disassociating themselves from the WTS.
Was he shocked when that is what exactly happened, he came and asked me if I was getting messages from God, tongue in cheek, of course.
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Need help in finding some information regarding the Adam and Eve tale.
by Tameria2001 ini am finally at the point in my life i no longer believe in the tales of the bible.
my husband feels for the most part that it too is stuff made up.
there are just a few things that he wants to get cleared up, and one of those being the story of adam and eve.
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blondie
The WTS says that Adam and Eve at that time did not know where the tree of life, and it just looked like any other tree. Of course, I think this is an allegory because too many questions and points come up showing it does match up with real life.
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1934 Yearbook hard to find
by rickroll ini have been looking for one and they go for a lot when i do find them.
to the tune of 200 bucks.
are they that rare?.
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blondie
When the Finished Mystery book came out in 1918, it had some portions so offensive to the US government, that the WTS actually had to remove those parts from a later printing, but it did not stop the government from taking legal steps. It was that information that eventually led to the WTS Board of Directors being sent to prison.
No time to any links on right now. But I'm sure a search of JWN will come up with some info.