a thought came to me as i was posting on another topic.
my reactionary mind, responding to watchtower's cruel and hostile treatment of genuine truthseekers who can no longer reconcile with watchtower's narrative was, " may the collapse begin".. but then my thoughts turned to how that would affect my parents and siblings who are blissfully oblivious with their collective heads in the sand.
all their hopes and future joy has been postponed for decades awaiting paradise while fighting off the black dog that is depression.
The way most of my family (other than me) have gotten out, is to die. So far from my generation 3 have left and not come back. Their children are definitely out, never in. Fortunately the 3 still in have not had children, and the 2 on the edge, none of their children have ever been jws.
It seems that the 3rd generation is not jws.
in my experience, there were three types of witnesses.
some were barely witnesses while others were extremely conservative types who followed the letter of the law.
and then you had those in the middle who just went with the flow.. i knew many witnesses who “felt safe” being in a stricter environment.they were actually proud that they belonged to such and such congregation because it was filled with strict bethelites..
I'm like Goldilocks:
Not too strict and not too liberal,
the recent article on the 5th anniversary of jw broadcasting includes a helpful graphic showing our hosts:.
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Evidently, bald old white men prevail.
what unique to jws phrases do you remember?
something fun for those of us taught to speak an entirely unique and pure language.
there have been posts in the past in this forum but perhaps some have new ones after having kept up with jehovah's chariot as the light gets brighter.
the truth
open their minds and hearts
this system
Only those who are “rightly disposed for everlasting life” will survive.
Soon, end
Bible-based publications.
everlasting life
did not respond favorably
the Bible was making me a better person
cherished assignment
circumstances
full-time servants
family worship
Satan’s world
Satan’s system.
Remember that to have a friend, you need to be a friend.
Jehovah’s service
Jehovah’s joyful service
progressive Bible studies
new territory
study God’s Word and Bible-based publications
You also obey Jesus by heeding the guidance he provides through “the faithful and discreet slave.”
had a measure of faith
organizational changes
no doubt
Evidently/Apparently/must have/From this we can see
hi all, i've not read the forums for awhile as i've been trying to move on with my life but i'm back and posting for the first time feeling like i cant get a grip.
so i'm wondering for those of you that have seen a therapist and say that it truly helps, what can be accomplished?
i'm just really skeptical, but starting to feel desperate.
I think seeing the right kind of therapist could be helpful. The best one I had had been a survivor of a cult herself.
You might find this woman's books helpful, Bonnie Zieman, she is an ex-jw and a qualified, professional therapist herself. She has worked with Barbara Anderson on the WTS abuse situation as well.
https://www.amazon.com/Cracking-Cult-Code-Therapists-Therapist/dp/1546894683/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=zieman+therapist&qid=1571267155&sr=8-1
it's seems that even the revised edition of the book revelation: it's grand climax a hand was wrong again.. in the 2019 agm david splane "clarified our understanding of the prophecy recorded in joel 2".
clarified?
you mean he done a 180 reversal.. from revelation: it's grand climax a hand page 143, para.
Actually, Rutherford left it all to Fred Franz and did not get involved in the interpretation of prophecy.
Yea I can picture Mad Freddy and boozer Rutherford sitting around and attaching "meaning" to some of the crap in Daniel and Revelation
so i'll be speaking on a panel as part of the "when rights and religions collide" event next saturday, october 19. if you'd like to attend you can learn more here:https://rightsandreligions.com/.
i'm also going to host a meetup on sunday if any of you are in the nyc area.
i'm still putting the finishing touches on the details but if you'd like to join in and meet myself, my wife, and a few people that listen to the shunned podcast or that are in my facebook group called by the same name shoot me a private message soon.
Wish I could be there.
from the official agm report: are you completely sober?.
brother geoffrey jackson made practical application of texts in the christian greek scriptures that use a term that literally means “sober.” he also stressed the importance of continuing to ‘keep our senses completely’ (literally “being sober perfectly”) during these last days.—1 peter 1:13.. .
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And after every day in the evening at circuit and regional conventions.
i saw this mentioned on reddit but no link - i found the article form this weeks bible study..... in the “congregation bible study” part of the meeting this week there was a part that said and i quote: “only jehovah god and his son can receive someone into the heavenly kingdom or the paradise on earth under that kingdom.
we should diligently cultivate friendship with them by using what material riches we have in supporting kingdom interests”.
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The Mormons practice tithing, having members present their income tax filing and calculate the amount of tithing by the "gross" amount. Tithing implies that their salvation is tied to money.
i saw this mentioned on reddit but no link - i found the article form this weeks bible study..... in the “congregation bible study” part of the meeting this week there was a part that said and i quote: “only jehovah god and his son can receive someone into the heavenly kingdom or the paradise on earth under that kingdom.
we should diligently cultivate friendship with them by using what material riches we have in supporting kingdom interests”.
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When my husband did accounts as an MS/and elder, he was told to be sure to ready all the acknowledgement letters from the WTS on the platform, usually the part "accounts report" regarding the donations sent in. He was told it would be indirect way to remind the "brothers and sisters" to donate. I don't know if that do that any more or even give a monthly account of the donations that month and the expenses, and whether they were in the black or in the red.
If that wasn't dunning every month, and every letter.
Edit 1 here is a quote from the 2016 God's Kingdom Rule publication:
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102014257?q=accounts+report&p=sen
Each month, the brother who cares for the congregation’s accounts prepares a financial report, which is read to the congregation.
Edit 2 (2008)
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/202008322?q=accounts+report+letter&p=par
10 min: Local announcements. Read accounts report and donation acknowledgments. Discuss the branch letter, which appears on page 1.
