Posts by blondie

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JW's are NOT connected to the WTBTS....

by BoogerMan in

.....just as gerrit losch of the g.b.

claimed he has nothing to do with it - or vice versa.. i suppose that's why him & his jw g.b.

cronies assume total control of the wtbts annual meeting every year - because they're totally separate from each other!

blondie

This is a misrepresentation by the WTS to protect themselves from personal actions by individual jws like elders or COs that speak as a representative, but are not acknowledged by the WTS. The WTS has separated the financial/legal departments from the GB group to protect the GB from liability. The WTS has counseled jws not to say, "the Society says" or the "paragraph says" so it is clear it is not the legal organization words. It is a moot point in reality. Some really wild things have gotten into the newspaper because a single jw representing himself as a jw spokesman officially. w98 3/15 18-19 Living Up to Christian Dedication in Freedom

4 In order to avoid misunderstandings, Jehovah's Witnesses try to be careful about how they express themselves. Instead of saying, "the Society teaches," many Witnesses prefer to use such expressions as, "the Bible says" or, "I understand the Bible to teach." In this way they emphasize the personal decision that each Witness has made in accepting Bible teachings and also avoid giving the false impression that Witnesses are somehow bound to the dictates of some religious sect.

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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?

by EmptyInside in

i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.

instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .

they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .

blondie

Whatever workaround the WTS comes up with, if the rank and file jws don't understand it the WTS says that they should obey because it is coming from "god's organization."

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Jehovah's witnesses sying County Governor om Oslo and Boken, Norway

by InquiryMan in

oops title going wrong.

suing, in and viken correct.

this afternoon a press release from the jw has been published in major news outlets in norway concerning the withdrawal of registration etc..

blondie

Well, if the WTS does not fit the Norwegian government's definition of the status the WTS is seeking, they might need better lawyers. The WTS feels their definition outvotes any government other than Christ's and that they are the only true representatives of Christ on earth. We'll see if it the legal government definition wins. If it does, then the WTS will say it is persecution from Satan.

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Watchtower is Run Like the Mafia

by Sea Breeze in

anybody else notice this?

the have a syndicate (governing body) regional bosses (district overseers), captians (circuit overseers), and elders are their "made men" that enforce policy at street level.

if you run your mouth too much, they wipe out your whole family (disfellowshipping).

blondie

Strange to hear that now. In the late 60's and 70's "heavy" brothers/elders came up from Chicago to run conventions in WI. Now, they were also called the "Mafia." It really was no joke in reality.

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Exercise Patience Regional Convention

by Rattigan350 in

the theme of the in person convention this year is "exercise patience".

looking at the convention map, they are really using their assembly halls and they are using smaller civic centers or city arena.

no more huge stadiums.. are they not expecting a great crowd?

blondie

Good to know, Rattigan. I think the WTS is afraid of the ones in charge of the convention locally will scam the WTS. "There shouldn't be any Regional Convention accounting scams. People put cash or checks in the box or they now use credit cards and then they total it up at the end of the 3 days and that money goes to the WTBTS and the WTBTS pays the expenses involved.

There is no convention accounting report given.

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How many terms does the bible bother to explain

by Blotty in

the bible is well known for its ellipsis* and its lack of explanatory statements of a term used.

there are exceptions in grammatical patterns, such as john exclusively using archon for ruler in his writings - which make the term self evident.sin - is defined"one" (unity) - is somewhat defined and also self evident from the context (no exceptions, every person part of that unity is listed in the context)an interesting thing to see would be how many terms are actually used and explained.

*the omission from speech or writing of a word or words that are superfluous or able to be understood from contextual clues..

blondie

How many jws or ex-jws think that the phrase "governing body" is said in Acts 15:2? Check again. The WTS will cite (not quote) a scripture in Acts 15:2 and say governing body in the paragraph but not put quote marks around it to indicate it is not a quote from the scripture. How many people realize that?

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New blood card system in March

by Indoubtbigtime in

there is going to be a hole new system of blood cards this march .

the congregation won’t hold any information as they did before from march it will be all put on the pub.

i think it’s to do with vaccines and they are worried now they got everyone vaxed and they want to distance themselves from medical responsibilities and say own personal decisions.

blondie

I was wondering how the WTS was going to know who had officially received the COVID-19 vaccinations. Elders are required to be to attend the Elders School. By self-identification, but the elders would never lie to the WTS, yes? I wonder if they are incorporating self-identification in written form on the card?

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For JW's, the 'ORG' is more important than Jesus Christ

by BoogerMan in

in the november 2022 study watchtower, "jehovah's organization" (or variants) is repeated at least 37 times.. the word 'organization' - like 'governing body,' 'trinity,' hell-fire,' & 'immortal soul,' - doesn't exist in the holy scriptures.. interestingly, jesus christ is mentioned only twice in all of the study articles - as an aside..

blondie

"n the November 2022 Study Watchtower, "Jehovah's organization" (or variants) is repeated at least 37 times.

The word 'organization' - like 'governing body,' 'trinity,' hell-fire,' & 'immortal soul,' - doesn't exist in the holy Scriptures.

Interestingly, Jesus Christ is mentioned only twice in all of the study articles - as an aside." Good point, Boogerman. I used to notice that when I commented on the weekly WT Study, how little Jesus was mentioned in the publications, even their songbook. Jesus is being written out of the narrative.

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Elders are no longer teachers

by eyeslice in

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back in the day when i was a young witness lad, you very much got the impression that at least the training as theocratic teachers was good.. even the bible reading back then had a short introduction and conclusion.

you had to research and prepare your own ministry school talks and then perhaps you would graduate to a half of a 55 minute public talk.

then later if you were a book study conductor, you got to decide which scriptures to read and highlight.

blondie

Elders don't teach, they just regurgitate what the WTS tells them. I remember talking to 2 elders and convinced them that what they were saying did not jive with what their bible says, and they agreed, but they had to following the GB. Wow!

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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?

by EmptyInside in

i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.

instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .

they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .

blondie

It probably has already been said that the "overlapping" generation addressed the fact that the members of the GB were getting older and older, and the WTS had to explain why younger and younger men were being appointed, most who claimed to be anointed long after 1935 when the WTS taught that the calling of the ended had ended. The WTS had to adjust that date of 1935 because so many more jws started self-identifying as "anointed" and the # was going up not decreasing as the WTS previously said would happen. Of course, the WTS suggested that many of these people were "confused" and were not real or genuine anointed. "

As Jesus had foretold in his illustration of the wheat and the weeds, it had long been impossible to distinguish wheat from weeds, genuine anointed Christians from impostors.(
For example, we cannot confirm which of the Reformers of the 16th century may have been anointed Christians.) (2012 Brother Splane pointed out that in an illustration, Jesus indicated that there would continue to be genuine anointed Christians on earth to defend the truth) (2000
- The number of genuine anointed Christians is dwindling, yet it seems that some of them will still be on earth when the great tribulation begins.—1/15, pages 12, 13.)