In this area, the local Assembly Hall is being used for regional conventions spread over 6
weekends. That building has only seats for about 2500 with all the seats filled. Things are a-changing.
https://youtu.be/5926nhzyz90.
the jehovah's witness 2023 convention theme is, ''exercise patience''...by looking at the attendance at this tucson, arizona convention, it should be changed to, '' jehovah's witnesses...running out of patience''.
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In this area, the local Assembly Hall is being used for regional conventions spread over 6
weekends. That building has only seats for about 2500 with all the seats filled. Things are a-changing.
elder friend of mine texted me asking what my rc attendance was 2 weeks ago (family and i streamed it since wife is not well).
he told me that his rc in the jersey city assembly hall last weekend was low.
co told them that around 2600 were the total from 16+ congs that were assigned.
Rattigan350, I found that supposedly real jws in the stands, looked and acted like cardboard cutouts.
elder friend of mine texted me asking what my rc attendance was 2 weeks ago (family and i streamed it since wife is not well).
he told me that his rc in the jersey city assembly hall last weekend was low.
co told them that around 2600 were the total from 16+ congs that were assigned.
Of course, the Shakers were celibate, but did adopt orphan children. That would slow down getting members.
'last night's flccc weekly update featured stories of families who fought in court to compel hospitals to give their loved ones ivermectin.
that it has come to this is tragic.
63 studies have now shown ivermectin’s efficacy in all stages of c19 disease.'.
Around 1950, the WTS quietly stopped forbidding vaccinations. Legal concerns seem to be a factor behind the Watchtower Society reversing its position and allowing vaccinations in 1952. "The matter of vaccination is one for the individual that has to face it to decide for himself. Each individual has to take the consequences for whatever position and action he takes toward a case of compulsory vaccination, doing so according to his own conscience and his appreciation of what is for good health and the interests of advancing God’s work. And our Society cannot afford to be drawn into the affair legally or take the responsibility for the way the case turns out.
After consideration of the matter, it does not appear to us to be in violation of the everlasting covenant made with Noah, as set down in Genesis 9:4, nor contrary to God’s related commandment at Leviticus 17:10-14. Most certainly it cannot reasonably or Scripturally be argued and proved that, by being vaccinated, the inoculated person is either eating or drinking blood and consuming it as food or receiving a blood transfusion. Vaccination does not bear any relationship to or any likeness to the intermarriage of angelic “sons of God” with the daughters of men, as described in Genesis 6:1-4. Neither can it be put in the same class as described at Leviticus 18:23, 24, which forbids the mingling of humans with animals. It has nothing to do with sex relations.
Hence all objection to vaccination on Scriptural grounds seems to be lacking."
"The matter of vaccination is one for the individual that has to face it to decide for himself... And our Society cannot afford to be drawn into the affair legally or take the responsibility for the way the case turns out." Watchtower 1952 Dec 15 p.764
and then, for two years…..nothing happened.until they pretended everything was normal and sent everyone back to the hamster wheel.
back to meetings, back to d2d, back to assemblies & conventions.
everyone, get back on the hamster wheel, and don’t you dare complain or try to get out of it by using zoom.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/14fhe4y/exercise_patience_classic_gaslighting_from_wt/ .
Very good point, EdenOne. I remember that response too but did not remember to put it in my post. Thanks.
yes, there’s a post on reddit.
it says that after a zoom meeting a request was made to baptized publishers to give $20 apiece to fix this elder’s car.. while this sounds highly irregular to me and not necessarily approved by the religion, i am not at all surprised at the nerve.
this, unfortunately, seems to be the direction that things are going there!
My family had many men who did the accounts, and had knowledge who really gave, especially those who gave over $250 at one time, because they needed a receipt to give the IRS to claim the donation. My husband heard people say they didn't have enough money, and then talk about how they rented DVDs at the cost of $5 a pop. Even $5 a month would have been something. The men who handle accounting know how few donate based on the amount of money they get each month that barely cover the utilities. While the WTS no longer makes loans and collect payments, they expect at least $8.50 per publisher per month to be sent to the WTS (sounds almost like tithing). The brothers who did accounting knew that the utilities had to be paid, or the electricity, water, gas would be turned off, and the KHs would be dark, cold/warm depending on the season, and no water to flush the toilets or provide drinking water. It was a juggling act to get things paid. Believe me, the younger jws will not step up especially if they did not see their parents donating. Jws don't even have to pay for the publications. One elder said on the platform, "It is easier for a jw to break a commandment than break a twenty."
the watchtower and awake have been listed as the most popular magazines.the figures are astonishing.
i am not sure whether it is based on reality or not.. source: https://tingtopten.com/2020/01/top-10-most-popular-magazines-in-the-world/.
i have seen the link on many social media networks.
2018 "The Watchtower and Awake! are the most widely published and translated magazines in the world! "
1991 "The Watchtower is by far the most widely distributed religious magazine in the world."
What does it say on the inside page over the cover, paper version? It used to say something about it what the distribution is?
Add to this, how many jws actually read the WT magazines, even before presenting them to non-jws? Not many in my experience.
it should be starting to become more clear to people what i've stated for years on this site.
the threat against religion that becomes pivotal will come from lgbtq politicians forcing through " hate crime" bills aimed at religions.
in the past i have had a " maybe" statement from only one commenter.
In 2022 the WTS, adjusted the UN's role "Yes, Jehovah will motivate the nations to use the scarlet-colored wild beast, that is, the United Nations, to turn on the world empire of false religion and completely destroy it." So it does mean the UN will act on their own, but the nations with influence the UN to do it.
when you visit the site it says jehovahs-witness big and bold.
a pimo might be browsing the site and a jw might come up behind him unexpectedly and notice he's visiting a site about jws other than jw.org, which can lead to the pimo reported for viewing apostate information.. to help remedy this risk, i was thinking about the possibility of having a button that activates an undercover mode where the title of the site is not prominently displayed so it's not easily apparent to an accidental eavesdropper that it's an apostate website.
also, the color-scheme and graphics can be different so that it doesn't look like the regular site.
Just make sure that a believing jw in your household, or visits does not have your passwords. And do not give out too many person details about yourself or congregation because elders or other jws do read JWN and other such groups.
yes, there’s a post on reddit.
it says that after a zoom meeting a request was made to baptized publishers to give $20 apiece to fix this elder’s car.. while this sounds highly irregular to me and not necessarily approved by the religion, i am not at all surprised at the nerve.
this, unfortunately, seems to be the direction that things are going there!
Now that is something I didn't hear very much, only once and to help a family with a non-jw husband they wanted to be impressed by their helpfulness. Other the WTS advises that the congregation will not donate money to individuals, but privately jws can do that themselves. Though, one elder body wanted to donate money to get flowers for a woman who had moved to another congregation (she had a lot of money and had donated alot) for flowers for her funeral; they had never done that for anyone else, even in their congregation. One elders spoke up that if each elder wanted to donate out of their pocket, but unless they put it to the congregation elders could not secretly make a donation using congregation money without a resolution being passed; that shut that down. But if that elder had no spoken up, it would have been done." The only other time was before the WTS funding the COs cars, announcements would be made that he needed a new car and had racked up some serious medical bills, and that jws in that circuit should try to donate to help him out or he would have to leave the "circuit work." But then BOEs will make their own rules despite what the WTS says. BOEs are go up against the WTS more often than other jws know.