Having played in orchestras at WTS conventions, it took a lot of time to meet and practice as a group and there were some primadonna brothers who were very unkind conducting. From my time where many family members were musical, sang or played various instruments it was not unusual to sing at family dos with at least a piano to sing with. As to choirs, we used to get together and sing non-jw and jw songs with many able to sing harmony. It was a good time.
Posts by blondie
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44The org. Came out with a Christmas song!!!!
by nowwhat? inholy nativity batman!
on jw broadcasting.
final song for this year's convention.
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blondie
SeaBreeze, "But, I doubt he would agree that he fought in 3 wars to allow JW parents kick their questioning teenagers out the house on the street and shun them." No, he would not feel that was the way to go either. He didn't know any jws that had done that so he didn't have an opportunity to tell them how hypocritical they were. At times there were young men in the military that wanted to get out legally and he would help them get through the red tape necessary. My father though did not let my mother impose her beliefs on us. I do think fighting in 3 wars to protect people's religious beliefs is a bad thing.
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Things you can not say in "field service" anymore.
by greenhornet inmany years ago we would be on someone's doorstep, when waiting for the house holder to come to the door we say something like ... yea after the big a this is going to be my house.
imagine saying that today with the common use of doorbell cameras and the squatting problem .
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blondie
Or as my husband says, "field circus."
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Disaster preparedness
by ElderBerry inas your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
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blondie
"Blondie, are you implying that the main reason they are now suggesting that disaster preparation is a good idea is because they lost some paperwork." I do know from elders in that area, had no idea how to contact people in their congregation before Hurricane Katrina. Thus when the written records were gone (and not backed up or available) some jws seemed to fall through the cracks, moving to all sorts of places, family, etc., to get back on their feet and that had no way of find who or where. Few jws had not prepared, like many non-jws had not done. Some jws even thought that their god would protect them from such things especially in the US. The WTS is an organization of records, knowing where the majority of jws are, how to find them and make sure they are toeing the WTS line. It was different then, so many years after Katrina, few jws know how it was or even if they lived then, have forgotten how bad it was. I can remember how many times an elder would call me and ask how they could contact "brother" or "sister" so; and I would say, don't you have that information. How can you say you are paying attention to the flock as your bible says? "The line I heard before Katrina was "god will provide." I wonder where their god was then. Yes, it was not until Katrina, the WTS realized that they needed to educate their "flock" to "prepare." Yes, the WTS said in the past there was no need to "prepare" for the chaos of the "great tribulation."
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Do JWs Really Say This?
by NotFormer ini stumbled, via a google search, upon a part of jw space that is usually heavily defended against outsiders like my good self.
in a discussion, someone started their post with "i (started doing x)... when the slave began to suggest doing so"*.
do pimis really talk that way?
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blondie
Now many tend to say "the Society" but the WTS officially has complained about this.
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The Society says that children should be taken to the congregational meetings because the Bible says so.
1981
“My two sons are both away from home, serving at the headquarters of the Watchtower Society,” she says proudly.
The WTS has also counseled not the say "the paragraph says" either.
or 1998
In order to avoid misunderstandings, Jehovah’s Witnesses try to be careful about how they express themselves. Instead of saying, “the Society teaches,” many Witnesses prefer to use such expressions as, “the Bible says” or, “I understand the Bible to teach.”
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"Everyone Wants To Leave"
by NotFormer ina thread about steve hassan re-emerged and got me looking him up.
his wikipedia entry had a point under "criticism" that there is an underlying assumption in his approach that all members of high control groups ultimately want to leave*.. while it is generally believed that there are a lot of pimos still attending, doing field service and giving lip service to the wt, i doubt that everyone within the congregations want to get out.
it's not always internally and logically consistent, but it's been around long enough for enough workarounds to make it tolerable to emerge.. what do you think?
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blondie
In the past, I have mentioned my own "aha moment." Each person reacts at their own time, when the crap reaches your mouth and you have to start eating it; or straddling a picket fence until it gets high enough for the pickets to start causing pain in the crotch area, have to pick one side or the other. I took some time, about 10 years to finally realize that I had to either eat crap, or realize that the pain was too much. I was a PIMO, but I could not stay that way and support the lies and get others to join the BORG.
Aha Moment:
- a moment of sudden insight or discovery."it was one of those aha moments, when you know you have to risk it all"
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Do you recognize the Truth? Watchtower July, 2024
by Listener inthe stated focus of this study article is.
focustraining ourselves to discern the difference between the truth we have learned from jehovah and the falsehoods promoted by satan and our opposers.. of course, the article goes on to claim that the truth is not only in the bible, but also from the watchtower organization.
the first of two qualities needed to discern truth is -.
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blondie
When the "apostasy" presented itself in 1981 at Bethel, with private pre-study groups for meetings, the WTS had to change its "opinion" of what Acts 17:11 said, a 180 turn. Never again did they say it this way again.
*** w81 2/15 p. 18 Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible? ***How shall we view the spiritual food provided by this “faithful and discreet slave”? Should it be viewed critically—‘Oh, well, it might be true but then again it might not be and so we have to scrutinize it very critically’? Some apparently have felt that way about it. To support their way of thinking they have quoted Acts 17:11, which says of newly interested persons at Beroea: “Now the latter were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so.” But does this mean that those Beroeans were looking for flaws in the message they were hearing, or that their attitude was one of doubting? Does this set a precedent for regarding critically the publications brought forth by the “faithful and discreet slave,” with a view to finding fault? Not at all!
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by gavindlt inthis was posted on jw leaks.. my truth's | dad seeking truth.
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blondie
DOC, yes the WTS can turn on a dime (make a 180 turn from a previous policy/doctrine) because they have done it many times. It is all a show for the governmental arrangements to "think" the WTS has changed.
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blondie
I grew up in a military family and it was not a big deal. We didn't even have to stand up, we could sit quietly while the others did it. My father (a non-jw military man) went to bat for us saying the country he fought for believed in freedom of religion, and said so much to the base commander. So no problem. A very unusual experience I know. Once we were at an event when the audience "asked" to stand up for the pledge, we did not, but my father did, the people behind us making nasty comments. My father (in uniform) stood up and turned to them and said, "this is my family, I have fought in 3 wars to protect their right to respectfully practice their beliefs." Well, those people sat down and shut up.
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Can God Change his Mind?
by peacefulpete inis 31:yet he also is wise and will bring disaster and does not retract his words.. 1 sam 15: furthermore, the eternal one of israel does not lie or change his mind, for he is not man who changes his mind.. numbers 23: god is not a man who lies, or a son of man who changes his mind.
does he speak and not act, or promise and not fulfill?.
when the god you worship pronounces judgement, is he, really just issuing a warning or has the matter been determined through all the godly powers of insight, foresight and perfect judgement?
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blondie
I have thought about this many times. The WTS tries to show how the original language words meant something different (and we are not capable of understanding it seemingly since the WTS does not tell which word they are referring to.)
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Doesn’t the Bible say that God never changes?
Yes, the Bible records God as saying: “I am Jehovah; I do not change.” (Malachi 3:6) Similarly, the Bible says that God “does not vary or change like the shifting shadows.” (James 1:17) This, however, does not contradict what the Bible says about God changing his mind. God is unchangeable in that his personality and standards of love and justice never alter. (Deuteronomy 32:4; 1 John 4:8) Still, he can give different instructions to people at different times. For instance, God gave opposite instructions to King David for fighting two consecutive battles, yet both methods succeeded.—2 Samuel 5:18-25. (Found at ijwbq article 86 in the WT Online Library, no link not to make someone uncomfortable going directly to the site, remember just reporting, not supporting)
