I look at it like news shared by posters on JWN. I look at the supporting evidence and try to find other comments regarding the same subject.
Posts by blondie
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Do You Believe The News Media Is Trustworthy?
by minimus inrecently a friend and i were having a conversation about the news media.
he is a democrat but he’s also a very reasonable person.
i’ve known him for many years.
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Ladies and Gents.... Domestic violence!
by Theonlyoneleft indomestic violence in the “tooth”... is this a thing?!.
you are starting to know me by now as i’m always full of questions... my clogs are always in motion and never stop... so another question for you to give me some guidance if you can.
based on pasts experience or cases you might heard of or seen, what advice could you give me in helping someone that is a jehovah witness, married with another jw but lives a marriage that is plagued by emotional domestic abuse and financial control?
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blondie
Vidiot, that comment was about what the WTS tells it members when "suggesting" that they not go to the authorities regarding the abuse. I agree with your comment here:
By now, it's more to keep the Org from looking bad in the eyes of the rank-and-file...
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Damon Wayans
by label licker inthis just breaks my heart.
one of my favorite actors.
i wonder why he went back.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgxx7knkwzc.
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blondie
Is there a direct quote from him saying he is a jw?
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Step right up and get while they've yet to flee like the vermin they are
by Tenacious inthe gb members are finally going to be named as individual defendants in child abuse cases.. read more about it here: reap it you vermin!.
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blondie
Attorney Zalkin works with Barbara Anderson on WTS child abuse cases. I'm sure she has clued him in.
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Ladies and Gents.... Domestic violence!
by Theonlyoneleft indomestic violence in the “tooth”... is this a thing?!.
you are starting to know me by now as i’m always full of questions... my clogs are always in motion and never stop... so another question for you to give me some guidance if you can.
based on pasts experience or cases you might heard of or seen, what advice could you give me in helping someone that is a jehovah witness, married with another jw but lives a marriage that is plagued by emotional domestic abuse and financial control?
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blondie
I have asked jws this:
If you saw someone on the street beat up another person, would you call police? (they say yes, they would)
Why is a different when a close family member does that to another family member, especially a spouse or a child?
What does it do to the children to see their parent beat up by the other parent?
I can't say that the abused person gets the idea right away. The psychology of abuse and how people react to it are pretty much the same despite any economic, cultural, or other situations. There are many professional suggestions and places to start and ways that you can intervene online.
Too many religions tell that wife to endure it and may be their husband will become a believer.
1 Peter 3:1 New International Version (NIV)
3 Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won overwithout words by the behavior of their wives
But what happens when the husband is already a jw?
The WTS counsel always seem to assume that only a non-jw husband would do this, giving counsel such as this:
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101996032?q=%22extreme+spousal+abuse%22&p=sen#h=27
In all cases of extreme spousal abuse, no one should put pressure on the innocent mate either to separate or to stay with the other. While mature friends and elders may offer support and Bible-based counsel, these cannot know all the details of what goes on between a husband and wife. Only Jehovah can see that. Of course, a Christian wife would not be honoring God’s marriage arrangement if she used flimsy excuses to get out of a marriage. But if an extremely dangerous situation persists, no one should criticize her if she chooses to separate.
---but what does the WTS consider EXTREME spousal abuse? What would be less extreme spousal abuse that must be endured? What happens to children who see and hear this abuse?
In 2017, the WTS said this showing that an abusive jw husband could be df'd. But what if the elders use 1 Peter 3:1 to "encourage" the jw wife to stay (and they do).
- lv p. 219-p. 221
- The Bible’s View on Divorce and Separation
Extreme physical abuse. An abusive spouse may act so violently that the abused mate’s health and even life are in danger. If the abusive spouse is a Christian, congregation elders should investigate the charges. Fits of anger and a practice of violent behavior are grounds for disfellowshipping.—Galatians 5:19-21.
---The WTS hides child sexual abuse and spousal abuse as well. Cardinal rule: We must not make the organization look bad in the eyes of the non-jw world.
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Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters
by Lobsto ina month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.
two days ago, i received a response from them.
i think this is gonna be the first of many.
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blondie
I give credit to anyone who tries to wade in on the topics of the trinity and 607 BCE.
I would find it like trying to wrestle a large octopus. Once a true "sport?".
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A Must Read Update on WBTS and Darkspilver from reddit
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inmany of us know that watch tower (yes, two words in this case) has issued a subpoena to reddit to try to gain darkspilver's identity due to accusations of copyright infringement:.
tl;dr: on april 9, watch tower filed a response to the eff's motion to quash (filed march 26) regarding the subpoena submitted to reddit in an attempt to find /u/darkspilver's identity.. the wt response is publicly available here as a pdf, from the site court listener.. a number of other documents relating to the case are available on the same site, here.. and the eff's motion to quash is available on the eff's website here.. details: as i'm sure many of us know, watch tower (yes, two words in this case) has issued a subpoena to reddit to try to gain /u/darkspilver's identity due to accusations of copyright infringement.
specifically, watch tower is claiming copyright infringement for two things: first, darkspilver posted the back page of the november 2018 watchtower which was an article entitled "what gift can we give to jehovah?” which explained how to donate.
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blondie
Thanks, Diogenesister, when I first read this,
“The poster is outside the territory of the U.S.; the church’s main concerns have been addressed by the takedown,” Donato said. “Isn’t that enough to call it a day?”
I thought, of course, this judge sees the real agenda of the WTS.
Darkspilver's attorney seems to see this too.
“We weren’t surprised that Judge Donato came to the hearing extremely well-prepared, but we were pleasantly surprised by the indications he gave, particularly with respect to procedural questions about the appealability of the magistrate judge’s order and the practical necessity of Watch Tower getting access to client’s name now that the images at issue have since been removed from Reddit,” she said. “We hope that Judge Donato’s decision will take into account the nature of our client’s fair use and the harm that compelling Reddit to disclose a user’s identity under these circumstances would do for the anonymous fair use commentary.”
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blondie
Annie, when do you think #2 will be available?
Thanks for finishing this for your mother.
Blondie
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Great Australian Kingdom Hall Sell Off
by gerry inbalga kingdom hall western australia sells for au$3.3 million.
https://www.onthehouse.com.au/property/wa/balga-6061/13-wallington-rd-balga-wa-6061-18287256.
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blondie
gerry, you must have fixed this.
the print is very small and hard to read
I clicked on the zoom icon in the left (?) hand corner after clicking the link. Then I clicked a few times until I could read it.
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If You Could Pick Just One Title Of A Song That Would Describe Your Life
by The Bethelite inwhat would it be?.
mine would be "rocket man" by elton john.
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blondie
RB, I have heard Joe Walsh sing this song and loved it. I think he was in the Animals who also covered this song. I heard him sing this song the first time I saw the Eagles in person.