"Gem from the November 2019 WT. Reject apostate material because JWs trust in "their brothers."

by Daniel1555 in

dear friends.

i didn't post for a while, but i still enjoy the great jwn community.. just wanted to share a "gem" from the november 2019 study watchtower.. paragraph 8 from the article "are you maintaining your large shield of faith?".

satan, “the father of the lie,” uses those under his control to spread lies about jehovah and about our brothers and sisters.

blondie

I wonder if older WT publications with old ideas would be considered apostate if a jw were to read them.

Edit: I ask because I read volume 7 of the Studies in the Scriptures and it made me wonder what other nonsense was believed back then.

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Did you ever thought this?

by Theonlyoneleft in

so.. you are a jw or studying, living your life and doing your bit, feverish of spreading the good news to everyone that will listen!.

you prep yourself for meetings, doing your ministry and applying all that there is into your daily life.. so....i have a question... you know... my clogs.

when you where completely in the religion, did you ever think about the impact of your way of life and religion towards others, specially those that lived around you such as good friends or family members that didn’t studied?

blondie

Add this to the list:

1) Many jws personal view: My non-jw relatives and friends will not be destroyed at Armageddon

2) WTS official stance in their publications: Only baptized jws in good standing (and their minor unbaptized children) will survive Armageddon.

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Do You Believe The News Media Is Trustworthy?

by minimus in

jw
friends

recently a friend and i were having a conversation about the news media.

he is a democrat but he’s also a very reasonable person.

i’ve known him for many years.

blondie

I look at it like news shared by posters on JWN. I look at the supporting evidence and try to find other comments regarding the same subject.

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Ladies and Gents.... Domestic violence!

by Theonlyoneleft in

domestic violence in the “tooth”... is this a thing?!.

you are starting to know me by now as i’m always full of questions... my clogs are always in motion and never stop... so another question for you to give me some guidance if you can.

based on pasts experience or cases you might heard of or seen, what advice could you give me in helping someone that is a jehovah witness, married with another jw but lives a marriage that is plagued by emotional domestic abuse and financial control?

blondie

Vidiot, that comment was about what the WTS tells it members when "suggesting" that they not go to the authorities regarding the abuse. I agree with your comment here:

By now, it's more to keep the Org from looking bad in the eyes of the rank-and-file...

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Damon Wayans

by label licker in

this just breaks my heart.

one of my favorite actors.

i wonder why he went back.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgxx7knkwzc.

blondie

Is there a direct quote from him saying he is a jw?

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Step right up and get while they've yet to flee like the vermin they are

by Tenacious in

the gb members are finally going to be named as individual defendants in child abuse cases.. read more about it here: reap it you vermin!.

blondie

Attorney Zalkin works with Barbara Anderson on WTS child abuse cases. I'm sure she has clued him in.

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Ladies and Gents.... Domestic violence!

by Theonlyoneleft in

domestic violence in the “tooth”... is this a thing?!.

you are starting to know me by now as i’m always full of questions... my clogs are always in motion and never stop... so another question for you to give me some guidance if you can.

based on pasts experience or cases you might heard of or seen, what advice could you give me in helping someone that is a jehovah witness, married with another jw but lives a marriage that is plagued by emotional domestic abuse and financial control?

blondie

I have asked jws this:

If you saw someone on the street beat up another person, would you call police? (they say yes, they would)

Why is a different when a close family member does that to another family member, especially a spouse or a child?

What does it do to the children to see their parent beat up by the other parent?

I can't say that the abused person gets the idea right away. The psychology of abuse and how people react to it are pretty much the same despite any economic, cultural, or other situations. There are many professional suggestions and places to start and ways that you can intervene online.

Too many religions tell that wife to endure it and may be their husband will become a believer.

1 Peter 3:1 New International Version (NIV)

3 Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won overwithout words by the behavior of their wives

But what happens when the husband is already a jw?

The WTS counsel always seem to assume that only a non-jw husband would do this, giving counsel such as this:

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101996032?q=%22extreme+spousal+abuse%22&p=sen#h=27

In all cases of extreme spousal abuse, no one should put pressure on the innocent mate either to separate or to stay with the other. While mature friends and elders may offer support and Bible-based counsel, these cannot know all the details of what goes on between a husband and wife. Only Jehovah can see that. Of course, a Christian wife would not be honoring God’s marriage arrangement if she used flimsy excuses to get out of a marriage. But if an extremely dangerous situation persists, no one should criticize her if she chooses to separate.

---but what does the WTS consider EXTREME spousal abuse? What would be less extreme spousal abuse that must be endured? What happens to children who see and hear this abuse?

In 2017, the WTS said this showing that an abusive jw husband could be df'd. But what if the elders use 1 Peter 3:1 to "encourage" the jw wife to stay (and they do).

lv p. 219-p. 221
The Bible’s View on Divorce and Separation

Extreme physical abuse. An abusive spouse may act so violently that the abused mate’s health and even life are in danger. If the abusive spouse is a Christian, congregation elders should investigate the charges. Fits of anger and a practice of violent behavior are grounds for disfellowshipping.—Galatians 5:19-21.

---The WTS hides child sexual abuse and spousal abuse as well. Cardinal rule: We must not make the organization look bad in the eyes of the non-jw world.

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Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

by Lobsto in

a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

two days ago, i received a response from them.

i think this is gonna be the first of many.

blondie

I give credit to anyone who tries to wade in on the topics of the trinity and 607 BCE.

I would find it like trying to wrestle a large octopus. Once a true "sport?".

Image result for wrestle an octopus

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A Must Read Update on WBTS and Darkspilver from reddit

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

jw
friends

many of us know that watch tower (yes, two words in this case) has issued a subpoena to reddit to try to gain darkspilver's identity due to accusations of copyright infringement:.

tl;dr: on april 9, watch tower filed a response to the eff's motion to quash (filed march 26) regarding the subpoena submitted to reddit in an attempt to find /u/darkspilver's identity.. the wt response is publicly available here as a pdf, from the site court listener.. a number of other documents relating to the case are available on the same site, here.. and the eff's motion to quash is available on the eff's website here.. details: as i'm sure many of us know, watch tower (yes, two words in this case) has issued a subpoena to reddit to try to gain /u/darkspilver's identity due to accusations of copyright infringement.

specifically, watch tower is claiming copyright infringement for two things: first, darkspilver posted the back page of the november 2018 watchtower which was an article entitled "what gift can we give to jehovah?” which explained how to donate.

blondie

Thanks, Diogenesister, when I first read this,

“The poster is outside the territory of the U.S.; the church’s main concerns have been addressed by the takedown,” Donato said. “Isn’t that enough to call it a day?”

I thought, of course, this judge sees the real agenda of the WTS.

Darkspilver's attorney seems to see this too.

“We weren’t surprised that Judge Donato came to the hearing extremely well-prepared, but we were pleasantly surprised by the indications he gave, particularly with respect to procedural questions about the appealability of the magistrate judge’s order and the practical necessity of Watch Tower getting access to client’s name now that the images at issue have since been removed from Reddit,” she said. “We hope that Judge Donato’s decision will take into account the nature of our client’s fair use and the harm that compelling Reddit to disclose a user’s identity under these circumstances would do for the anonymous fair use commentary.”

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Update about mom's book

by vienne in

https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2019/08/update.html.

blondie

Annie, when do you think #2 will be available?

Thanks for finishing this for your mother.

Blondie

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1 Peter 3:1 New International Version (NIV)