Very good point, EdenOne. I remember that response too but did not remember to put it in my post. Thanks.
Posts by blondie
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20Very Interesting Post...
by XBEHERE inand then, for two years…..nothing happened.until they pretended everything was normal and sent everyone back to the hamster wheel.
back to meetings, back to d2d, back to assemblies & conventions.
everyone, get back on the hamster wheel, and don’t you dare complain or try to get out of it by using zoom.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/14fhe4y/exercise_patience_classic_gaslighting_from_wt/ .
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Reddit post about elder asking congregation for money to fix his car!
by LongHairGal inyes, there’s a post on reddit.
it says that after a zoom meeting a request was made to baptized publishers to give $20 apiece to fix this elder’s car.. while this sounds highly irregular to me and not necessarily approved by the religion, i am not at all surprised at the nerve.
this, unfortunately, seems to be the direction that things are going there!
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blondie
My family had many men who did the accounts, and had knowledge who really gave, especially those who gave over $250 at one time, because they needed a receipt to give the IRS to claim the donation. My husband heard people say they didn't have enough money, and then talk about how they rented DVDs at the cost of $5 a pop. Even $5 a month would have been something. The men who handle accounting know how few donate based on the amount of money they get each month that barely cover the utilities. While the WTS no longer makes loans and collect payments, they expect at least $8.50 per publisher per month to be sent to the WTS (sounds almost like tithing). The brothers who did accounting knew that the utilities had to be paid, or the electricity, water, gas would be turned off, and the KHs would be dark, cold/warm depending on the season, and no water to flush the toilets or provide drinking water. It was a juggling act to get things paid. Believe me, the younger jws will not step up especially if they did not see their parents donating. Jws don't even have to pay for the publications. One elder said on the platform, "It is easier for a jw to break a commandment than break a twenty."
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Facts or Biasedness?
by Ardian inthe watchtower and awake have been listed as the most popular magazines.the figures are astonishing.
i am not sure whether it is based on reality or not.. source: https://tingtopten.com/2020/01/top-10-most-popular-magazines-in-the-world/.
i have seen the link on many social media networks.
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blondie
2018 "The Watchtower and Awake! are the most widely published and translated magazines in the world! "
1991 "The Watchtower is by far the most widely distributed religious magazine in the world."
What does it say on the inside page over the cover, paper version? It used to say something about it what the distribution is?
Add to this, how many jws actually read the WT magazines, even before presenting them to non-jws? Not many in my experience.
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Rainbow 🌈 Law Makers will turn on Religion NOT the UN
by JohnTron7 init should be starting to become more clear to people what i've stated for years on this site.
the threat against religion that becomes pivotal will come from lgbtq politicians forcing through " hate crime" bills aimed at religions.
in the past i have had a " maybe" statement from only one commenter.
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blondie
In 2022 the WTS, adjusted the UN's role "Yes, Jehovah will motivate the nations to use the scarlet-colored wild beast, that is, the United Nations, to turn on the world empire of false religion and completely destroy it." So it does mean the UN will act on their own, but the nations with influence the UN to do it.
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How about having a special undercover mode so PIMOs can browse the site with greater security?
by Island Man inwhen you visit the site it says jehovahs-witness big and bold.
a pimo might be browsing the site and a jw might come up behind him unexpectedly and notice he's visiting a site about jws other than jw.org, which can lead to the pimo reported for viewing apostate information.. to help remedy this risk, i was thinking about the possibility of having a button that activates an undercover mode where the title of the site is not prominently displayed so it's not easily apparent to an accidental eavesdropper that it's an apostate website.
also, the color-scheme and graphics can be different so that it doesn't look like the regular site.
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blondie
Just make sure that a believing jw in your household, or visits does not have your passwords. And do not give out too many person details about yourself or congregation because elders or other jws do read JWN and other such groups.
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Reddit post about elder asking congregation for money to fix his car!
by LongHairGal inyes, there’s a post on reddit.
it says that after a zoom meeting a request was made to baptized publishers to give $20 apiece to fix this elder’s car.. while this sounds highly irregular to me and not necessarily approved by the religion, i am not at all surprised at the nerve.
this, unfortunately, seems to be the direction that things are going there!
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blondie
Now that is something I didn't hear very much, only once and to help a family with a non-jw husband they wanted to be impressed by their helpfulness. Other the WTS advises that the congregation will not donate money to individuals, but privately jws can do that themselves. Though, one elder body wanted to donate money to get flowers for a woman who had moved to another congregation (she had a lot of money and had donated alot) for flowers for her funeral; they had never done that for anyone else, even in their congregation. One elders spoke up that if each elder wanted to donate out of their pocket, but unless they put it to the congregation elders could not secretly make a donation using congregation money without a resolution being passed; that shut that down. But if that elder had no spoken up, it would have been done." The only other time was before the WTS funding the COs cars, announcements would be made that he needed a new car and had racked up some serious medical bills, and that jws in that circuit should try to donate to help him out or he would have to leave the "circuit work." But then BOEs will make their own rules despite what the WTS says. BOEs are go up against the WTS more often than other jws know.
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Confirmed: CO Discourages Zoom
by XBEHERE ini can confirm that the co during one of his service talks stated that zoom is a provision for elderly, infirmed, as well as people who might need it on occasion due to health reasons, otherwise you are expected to be in person at meetings and in the ministry.
this had to come down from the top.
maybe they do not want to put it in a gb update or broadcast since that would be too public i suppose.
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blondie
Actually, the elders received a letter as to how they were to discourage the use of Zoom, and the qualifications to use it and that the COs were going to also "suggest" members go to the KH. Much the same as it was when "qualified" jws could listen in on the meetings on the telephone. The elders were to make sure that elderly and properly ill jws were approved and a password given to them that expired every month and "cautioned strongly" not to share the password with anyone else. Perhaps, you could contact the poster here, Atlantis, to get a copy sent to you online of that letter to the elders.
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R & F JW's ARE agents of the org....
by BoogerMan in....despite the cult's denials.. w51 6/15 p. 378 par.
23 the spirit, the organization, and the word - his theocratic organization recognizes your authority from his word, the bible.
so it uses you as one of its representatives in the field and it co-operates with you, supplies your needs, and renders you assistance..
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blondie
Journeyman, I agree that 1951 is going back too far for most jws to view as valid. What I do is see what has been said later, as current as possible, so jws don't say there is a new view on it. Not that elders haven't used that on me, and then I would point out that this had been discussed in an article just a few months ago. I got silence after that. Probably to busy to read their own "spiritual" guidance from the GB.
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Confirmed: CO Discourages Zoom
by XBEHERE ini can confirm that the co during one of his service talks stated that zoom is a provision for elderly, infirmed, as well as people who might need it on occasion due to health reasons, otherwise you are expected to be in person at meetings and in the ministry.
this had to come down from the top.
maybe they do not want to put it in a gb update or broadcast since that would be too public i suppose.
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blondie
Of course, XBEHERE, the WTS uses the word "encourage" but if you choose not to be "encouraged" you are going against god's direction from their god's representative on earth.
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Regional Convention Attendance
by XBEHERE inelder friend of mine texted me asking what my rc attendance was 2 weeks ago (family and i streamed it since wife is not well).
he told me that his rc in the jersey city assembly hall last weekend was low.
co told them that around 2600 were the total from 16+ congs that were assigned.
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blondie
Someone put a invitation to the regional convention in this area. Being held at an Assembly Hall. Never thought to see that day. Built only to hold one circuit which consisted of a max of 1500, so all could find a seat. More than that would be a nightmare, beyond the other nightmares to be found there.