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  2018-Message From Watchtower Informant!

  by Atlantis in

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  from one of our informants inside the watchtower.

  (same person whosent us videos from the legal dept., accounting dept., pioneer school,and so forth.

  ) atlantis told him that he is walking on a razors edge,to be extremely careful.his email message:1. watch tower has no right to demand you to sign a consent form.

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  purrpurr:

  Very good question and I am sure others would want to know to. I'll see what I can find out, or others on the board who have worked at WT Headquarters might already know.

  Atlantis!
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  2018-Message From Watchtower Informant!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from one of our informants inside the watchtower.

  (same person whosent us videos from the legal dept., accounting dept., pioneer school,and so forth.

  ) atlantis told him that he is walking on a razors edge,to be extremely careful.his email message:1. watch tower has no right to demand you to sign a consent form.

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  Atlantis

  More Information coming in on this topic:

  When GDPR comes into effect on May 25, 2018 a person can request this data WITHOUT INCURRING ANY COSTS. Organizations have to provide that data freely and willingly.

  A comment was made that DA and DF people should request it but not faders or current members. No, the point is that under GDPR, organizations can not penalize anyone for requesting access to their data, revoking access to their data, requesting their data be amended or deleted.

  As there is no cost involved in getting access to this data and as Watch Tower are forbidden from penalizing members for doing so, we encourage every member in Europe who is interested in what personal data the corporation has about them.

  Does this apply to the US and Canada? Not currently. Watch Tower has created a privacy policy that they amend regularly and it applies to all regions, not just Europe.

  I'll keep posting if more info is received.

  Atlantis!
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  2018-Message From Watchtower Informant!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from one of our informants inside the watchtower.

  (same person whosent us videos from the legal dept., accounting dept., pioneer school,and so forth.

  ) atlantis told him that he is walking on a razors edge,to be extremely careful.his email message:1. watch tower has no right to demand you to sign a consent form.

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  The Fall Guy:

  Sounds accurate to me. I think we learned some years back that there was a charge of about $20.00 dollars for administrative time and paperwork. Isn't that about right Fall Guy?

  I think previously some mentioned that they wanted their data with the Watchtower destroyed and the Watchtower charged them for this. I think jwfacts did this so I need his comments.

  Pretty sure Fall Guy is right on this, but it would be nice to have a scan of a receipt. Wonder if Paul might have one.

  Need another cup of coffee to get my old memory going.

  Atlantis!
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  2018-Message From Watchtower Informant!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from one of our informants inside the watchtower.

  (same person whosent us videos from the legal dept., accounting dept., pioneer school,and so forth.

  ) atlantis told him that he is walking on a razors edge,to be extremely careful.his email message:1. watch tower has no right to demand you to sign a consent form.

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  wannaexit:

  This link might help. Look to your right on that page and click on some of the additional info.

  https://www.jw.org/en/privacy-policy/global-policy-personal-data/

  Atlantis!
  
  
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  Why the organisation is angry at me

  by Alex Bogdanov in

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  my name is alex bogdanov.

  i am the author of if only.

  it was published a month ago.

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  Atlantis

  Alex Bogdanov:

  If Satan exists, the Governing body are his mates.

  I believe that sums it up pretty well! If you need any documents to assist you, just let us know.

  Atlantis!
  
  
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  2018-Message From Watchtower Informant!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from one of our informants inside the watchtower.

  (same person whosent us videos from the legal dept., accounting dept., pioneer school,and so forth.

  ) atlantis told him that he is walking on a razors edge,to be extremely careful.his email message:1. watch tower has no right to demand you to sign a consent form.

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  Atlantis

  From one of our informants inside the Watchtower. (Same person who
  sent us videos from the Legal dept., Accounting dept., Pioneer School,
  and so forth.) Atlantis told him that he is walking on a razors edge,
  to be extremely careful.
  
  
  His email message:
  
  
  1. Watch Tower has no right to demand you to sign a consent form. If
  elders are demanding that congregation members sign the form, this
  could leave Jehovah’s Witnesses open to being fined.
  
  2. Watch Tower currently retains information about members and former
  members with consent. The purpose for signing the consent form is to
  retain access to that data.
  
  3. Watch Tower retains more data about former members than existing
  members. This data they acquired without member’s knowledge or
  consent. They intend to retain this data whether or not a member signs
  the consent form. This is illegal but they hope that their "freedom of
  religion" card will give them immunity from this law.
  
  4. As many former members (disfellowshipped, disassociated or faded),
  should submit a formal data access request to the congregation(s) they
  served in and to their local branch.
  
  5. All members who have been reinstated within the last 10 years
  should also make a formal data access request.
  
  6. If there is any data that they have that you feel uncomfortable
  with them having, you should request that it be amended or deleted.
  
  7. Those who are current members who are either active or inactive and
  worried about being penalised for requesting access to and deletion of
  your data, please be aware of the following legal fact:
  
  UNDER GDPR, IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR AN ORGANIZATION TO PENALISE MEMBERS WHO
  DO NOT CONSENT, REVOKE THEIR CONSENT OR REQUEST THAT THEIR PERSONAL
  DATA BE AMENDED OR DESTROYED.
  
  8. Watch Tower and its cooperating entities will face large fines if
  they are found to be out of compliance with the law.

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  Petra!
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  What does the WTS say about Satan?

  by Doug Mason in

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  over the past several months, i have been assembling a study dealing with the life and times of satan, the devil.

  it is my intention to release the first draft in a few weeks.. i have provided the draft of the last chapter at:.

  http://www.jwstudies.com/pages_174-200.pdf .

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  Doug Mason:

  Thank you!

  Atlantis!
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  The older I get the more angry I become!

  by Sour Grapes in

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  i did some self-reflection today trying to determine why, with every passing day, i become angrier against the watchtower company.

  i am in my 70's and my health is failing.

  at first, i thought it was because "worldly" people couldn't care less about jdubs and the little world they live in even though the witlesses think that the earth revolves around them and their desert god who was originally worshipped by the cainites.

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  Absolutely! There are many people on this board who know exactly how you feel. I certainly do! The Watchtower organization I see today is nothing like the organization of the 1950s or 1960s.

  They warned against the Internet and now they are neck deep in it. The sacrifices we made for the borg during our younger years will never be repaid, but we can be thankful we are no longer deceived by the Watchtower and try to make the best of what years we have left.

  We might be able to help someone else so that they CAN go to college and make a decent living for their family. The damage done to us may follow us to our grave, but we may die smiling that we helped someone else to be free from the Watchtower.

  Atlantis!
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  2017--2018-WT-Global-Information-Technology/Data-Handbook!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2017--2018 watchtower data/global information/technology handbook.just in case this wasn't posted before.so many documents are coming in that i had to put all of this into onepdf file.

  if i posted them separately i would clutter up the board.https://we.tl/blbrdfkhvzatlantis!.

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  Bruisedandbleeding12:

  Welcome Bruised!

  Atlantis!
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  2017--2018-WT-Global-Information-Technology/Data-Handbook!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2017--2018 watchtower data/global information/technology handbook.just in case this wasn't posted before.so many documents are coming in that i had to put all of this into onepdf file.

  if i posted them separately i would clutter up the board.https://we.tl/blbrdfkhvzatlantis!.

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  careful:

  You are very welcome!

  Atlantis!