Posts by Atlantis

So true! Glad RB knows his gadgets from that time period. Back in the 1970's they use to have VHS and Super Betamax wars. Remember that? People would argue back and forth which one was better.

VHS finally won only because a person could record 3 movies on a blank tape instead of 2 movies like Betamax. The blank Betamax tapes were smaller than the VHS blank tapes. But to this day a lot of people still claim that Super Betamax is better quality.

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vienne:

You are welcome to the file my friend! Just send me a pm, and don't forget to grab some coffee and chocolate chip cookies!

Atlantis!

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Has the Watchtower ever admitted in writing that blood transfusions could save a person's physical life?

by Vanderhoven7 in

hae anyone come across a quotation to that effect?.

Atlantis

neat blue dog:

That quote was only found in the Dutch Edition. Nothing even close to it in the English Edition and a lot of people wondered why.

Atlantis!

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Not On Simon's Board--The Forbidden File!

by Atlantis in

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hi mike:.

the file you have requested, is a file i will not provide a link for out here on simon's board.

i will be happy to give you a link for that "forbidden" file in private.

Atlantis

luckynedpepper:

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vienne: The file shows a lot of nudity of what was being displayed in the 1920's at the Winter Garden Theater. (Some people would consider the file pornographic and not suitable here.) We still love you vienne!

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GrreatTeacher:

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Beth Sarim:

Thank you! VHS, Beta, Super8, Blu-ray, reel-to-reel, 8mm, slide-projector, ( had to be one of them somewhere along the line.)

Hot coffee in the break-room with strawberry treats. Just pop the treat in the toaster and you are all set!

Atlantis!

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New Documents if you want them!

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keinlezard:

Most welcome!

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Not On Simon's Board--The Forbidden File!

by Atlantis in

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hi mike:.

the file you have requested, is a file i will not provide a link for out here on simon's board.

i will be happy to give you a link for that "forbidden" file in private.

Atlantis

Hi Mike:

The file you have requested, is a file I will not provide a link for out here on Simon's board. I will be happy to give you a link for that "Forbidden" file in private. ( Send me a pm for the link.)

Please consider that when we come here we are coming into Simon's living room, and there are some subjects and content that Simon would rather not have discussed here. A little respect is appreciated.

You are not the only person who has requested that file, so that is why I include these details out here.

Please realize that we are talking about the 1920's, and that file shows what Rutherford "paid" to see at the Winter Garden Theater around 1926 in detail. Rutherford took a young female Bible Student with him to these nude and semi-nude performances.

The President of the Watchtower Bible And Tract Society, or what some people would call "the governing body", was seen by many Bible Students, and charges of immoral conduct were brought against Rutherford concerning his blatant disregard for Bible principles.

(See Edmond Gruss, The Four Presidents Of The Watchtower)

Some of the highest and most respected members of the Society saw Rutherford going to these "nude" performances, and especially when he was out of the country. ( According to A.H. Macmillan, Rutherford frequently attended nude and semi-nude burlesque shows, especially when he was out of the country. (The accusation was made in a

letter dated April 27, 1926 by one of the most respected members of the organization, George H. Fisher, Edmond Gruss, The Four Presidents Of The Watchtower, pg 28)

Even the "doorman" at the "Winter Garden Theater" was one of the Bible Students who opened the door for Rutherford and his young lady to enter the building. Certainly, conduct unbecoming of a christian, would have been just the beginning of the charges brought against Rutherford and his young female companion.

Rutherford was a "regular" at these nude performances and seen going to them on several occasions. Everything included in that book came from eye-witness accounts, or people who spoke to the eye-witnesses. In a court of law there is no better evidence than an eye-witness.

A "Madam" prostitute who attended meetings gave account of Rutherford being treated for syphilis, and she had nothing to hide. She was "proud" of her profession and the ability to financially support herself. This was just before the great depression and it was difficult for females to find work. (Unless they were willing to, shall we say, provide services of a "questionable" nature!) ( Great depression 1929-1933)

That book contains nearly every advertisement a person could find, concerning the "nude" book covers, nude women, nude men, "nude art", "nude dancers", and the list goes on and on.

Gertrude Hoffman was a "regular" at many of these theaters of that time period. Gertrude Hoffman was one of the most celebrated dancers of all time.

Gertrude was arrested for immoral dancing practices, including laying on the floor "semi-nude" with the severed head of John The Baptist at her feet.

Officials "banned" her dancing in several states. If it was controversial, bending the line of morality, or displaying "total-nudity", then Gertrude Hoffman jumped in head first and was all for it.

Gertrude's opinion was: "Why go to a museum and "pay" to see naked paintings and statues, when you can pay to see the real thing over here!

Back then, Gertrude and the "Gertrude Dancing Girls" performances were called the greatest show on earth, and Rutherford wanted to get his eyes full. The young lady on Rutherford's arm could view all the "semi-nude" men she could handle.

What do you think was running through the mind of Rutherford and his young lady after viewing shows of that content? I can guarantee you they weren't leaving the theater to go and get ice cream!

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Credit: Leolaia:

Rutherford was staying at a hotel, the person who straightened up his room found a lady's hairpin in his bed. According to AlanF, this occurred in 1928 and the incident led to the stumbling of a number of Bible Students in the Buffalo, New York, area. Both claim that Mr. James Penton has been doing research on this incident. Moreover another poster, cyberguy, was friends with an elder from Long Beach, CA who knew Berta. He related that Berta had a bedroom adjoining Rutherford's in the train car they used in their travels, with a directly connecting door between the two rooms. He learned this when Berta met with the elders before she died and gave them a full confession, showing them home movies of the two of them together.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/154191/rutherford-exposed-story-berta-bonnie-redux

Grandpa!

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Has the Watchtower ever admitted in writing that blood transfusions could save a person's physical life?

by Vanderhoven7 in

hae anyone come across a quotation to that effect?.

Atlantis

Around l940 the JW leaders believed: "…blood transfusion has saved many lives."

(Consolation 1940, October l6, p.11 Australian edition)

Their own magazine recorded experiences like this one:

The Mending of a Heart

In New York city a housewife in moving a boarder's things accidentally shot herself through the heart with his revolver. She was rushed to a hospital, her left breast was cut around, four ribs were cut away, the heart was lifted out, three stitches were taken, one of the attending physicians in the great emergency gave a quart of his blood for transfusion, and today the woman lives and smiles gaily over what happened to her in the busiest 23 minutes of her life. (Consolation Volume XXII, 1940, December 25)

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Has the Watchtower ever admitted in writing that blood transfusions could save a person's physical life?

by Vanderhoven7 in

hae anyone come across a quotation to that effect?.

Atlantis

1945 Dutch Consolation

Vertroosting (dutch Consolation), September 1945, blz. 29 Dutch:
"Wanneer wij ons leven verliezen, doordat wij weigeren, inspuitingen te laten maken, dient zulks niet tot een getuigenis, ter rechtvaardiging van Jehovah`s Naam.

God heeft nooit bepalingen uitgevaardigd die het gebruik van medicijnen, inspuitingen of bloedtransfusie verbiedt."

Het is een uitvinding van menschen, die gelijk de Farizeeën Jehova's barmhartigheid en liefde buiten beschouwing laten.

Jehova te dienen met geheel ons verstand beteekent niet ons verstand uit te schakelen; vooral dan niet, als het om een menschenleven gaat, dat Jehova toegewijd en daarom heilig is".

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English translation:

“When we lose our life, because we refuse, inoculations,
that does not bear witness as a justification of Jehovah’s name.
God never issued regulations which prohibit the use of drugs, inoculations or blood transfusions.

It is an invention of people, who, like the Pharisees, leave Jehovah’s mercy and love aside. Jehovah to serve with all our reason, doesn't mean not to disconnect our reason, in especially when it concerns a human life that is devoted to Jehovah and therefore it is holy."

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If anyone wants that Dutch Consolation just say the word and I'll grab a link for you. (Remember, it is in Dutch)

Atlantis!

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New Documents if you want them!

by Atlantis in

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friends

2021-september 20, assisting asylum-seekers from russia.

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Beth Sarim:

nowwhat:

Biahi:

zahoots:

Thank you! Drinks are on the house for everybody!

Atlantis!