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Hurricane Katrina Destroyed Jehovah's Witnesses Historical Landmark
by blondie inhurricane katrina destroyed jehovah's witnesses historical landmark
posted on wednesday, november 02 @ 09:38:20 wst by sweenytod
" may he loyal prove and true to the end of the way, and with all the faithful receive the crown of life which fadeth not away.. http://www.ctrussell.us/ctrussell/ctrussell.nsf/22284ee7f683acc9862566bd000b278c/ca74cbadc9362c4a8625646100817bff?opendocument.
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My wife's birthday yesterday
by Undecided inmy wife turned 64 yesterday.
she still looks to be in her fifties.
she was disapointed because not one of her children came by to see her.
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Happy Birthday and many more to come!
Cheers!
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Tests are not Life! [Dreams before Russell]!
by Atlantis ininteresting notes of revelations or dreams "before" russell!.
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200511/24/200511242210507209900090809081.html .
tests are not life.
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Interesting notes of revelations or dreams "before" Russell!
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200511/24/200511242210507209900090809081.html
Tests are not life "Tom, finish your dinner ? people in China and India are starving." Parents of Thomas Friedman, author of "The World Is Flat: A Brief History of the Twenty-first Century," told him when he was young. The New York Times Op-Ed columnist now advises his two daughters, a college freshman and a high school junior, "Girls, finish your homework ? people in China and India are starving for your jobs." Arguing that the world has entered an era of infinite competition, Mr. Friedman educates his daughters this way.
Competition is often seen as a test. While the test result can make you smile or cry, your future doesn't depend on it. The birth of Taiping Tianguo, the Kingdom of Heavenly Peace, a kingdom that coexisted along with the Qing Dynasty from 1851 to 1864, is closely related to the test failure of one man.
Hong Xiuquan's family put all hope in their bright son. However, when he failed his fourth attempt at the civil service examination in 1843, he had a fever for forty days. Then he received a divine message from an old man in a dream that he should fight off evil and save the world. Having read Christian texts, he was sure the man was Jehovah and devoted himself to establishing the Heavenly Kingdom of Taiping, where people could enjoy equality under the protection of God.
There are many notable figures that failed exams but left their names in history. Winston Churchill failed his military academy exam twice and Adolf Hitler failed the entrance exam to art school twice.
In 1921, American psychologist Lewis Terman began surveying the academic achievements of 1,500 children with an I.Q. of 135 or higher. The participants, called "The Termites," displayed extraordinary learning ability and high academic achievements. Mr. Terman published that innate intelligence determined the success of children. However, he was too rash in reaching that conclusion. More interesting results were produced from the research that followed. When the termites who achieved best and worst were compared, there was not much difference in the I.Q. of the two groups. In fact, there was little correlation between I.Q. and success.
However, common traits could be found in the highly successful children. They had conviction, perseverance and passion. On November 23, about 600,000 students took the College Scholastic Aptitude Test. Some did well while others were not satisfied with their performance. What is important is that a failed test does not mean a failed life, just as life doesn't end when the test ends. As long as you have conviction, perseverance and passion, your life is still full of hope.
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Let's play a game - Follow the WTS $$ trail
by watch the tower ina huge question that i have in the back of my mind regarding the wts is where all of the money ends up.
no one really has a conclusive answer to that.
i think it would reveal a lot if we were able to find out.. i know there have been various threads in the past where it revealed a clue here and a clue there.
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Accepting bribes could also help to increase the "money trail" for the Watchtower, and especially aid those who have offered them to move up the ranks in the Watchtower organization! If the information written in the letter is correct, then one would certainly have to wonder about how many "other bribes" the Watchtower higher-ups have accepted! The link listed below is mostly in another language, however, the letter is in English. http://www.geocities.com/osarsif/knorr.htm
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Let's play a game - Follow the WTS $$ trail
by watch the tower ina huge question that i have in the back of my mind regarding the wts is where all of the money ends up.
no one really has a conclusive answer to that.
i think it would reveal a lot if we were able to find out.. i know there have been various threads in the past where it revealed a clue here and a clue there.
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Perhaps conducting business transactions with the "evil slave" has helped to save money for the Watchtower Society! This is only one example. How many more financial transaction examples have there been through the years? http://www.biblestudents.net/images/dawn.jpg
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Let's play a game - Follow the WTS $$ trail
by watch the tower ina huge question that i have in the back of my mind regarding the wts is where all of the money ends up.
no one really has a conclusive answer to that.
i think it would reveal a lot if we were able to find out.. i know there have been various threads in the past where it revealed a clue here and a clue there.
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AuldSoul:
The lottery information originally came from here:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/67504/1.ashx
But any assistance in finding "correct" information is very much appreciated!
Thanks AulsSoul!
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Let's play a game - Follow the WTS $$ trail
by watch the tower ina huge question that i have in the back of my mind regarding the wts is where all of the money ends up.
no one really has a conclusive answer to that.
i think it would reveal a lot if we were able to find out.. i know there have been various threads in the past where it revealed a clue here and a clue there.
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AuldSoul:
Thank you for that information AuldSoul! In my digging I am finding posts by several different people, some of which I do not recognize. The lottery post is an example of one!
Cheers!
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Let's play a game - Follow the WTS $$ trail
by watch the tower ina huge question that i have in the back of my mind regarding the wts is where all of the money ends up.
no one really has a conclusive answer to that.
i think it would reveal a lot if we were able to find out.. i know there have been various threads in the past where it revealed a clue here and a clue there.
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LOTTERY and the Watchtower! While most religious organizations see nothing wrong in participating in a [lottery], on the other hand the Watchtower Society condemns this gambling practice for its 6 million members. However, when there is [money] involved, the Watchtower Society and several of its congregations have been caught red handed in participating in lotteries. Participating in a [lottery] can also financially benefit the Watchtower Society and help to increase their "money trail." The Watchtower Society and Jehovah's Witness congregations have listed themselves as participants in a lottery more than once! Page 2 paragraph 5 of the Hydrecs Power Pioneer newsletter gives us this information, quote: LIFESTYLE REMINDER "Get your points in to your Lifestyle Representative by December 1 to be entered in the Lotto draw to win the chance to donate $500 to your favorite recognized charity. The Lifestyle year is January to December. By becoming a Power Pioneer member you can participate in the incentive program. Go to [email protected] to sign up or contact your local Lifestyle Rep (list enclosed). The above information is found here on page 2 paragraph 5. This link took my computer several minutes to download, so please be patient! http://www.powerpioneers.com/files/provincial_news/LG04-95_Winter_Newsletter2004.pdf And in addition, we find this information: The incentive award for 2005 at the 400 point level is a Power Pioneers Royal Blue Microfibre Vest. All other levels from 100 to 800 points will be entered into the Lifestyle Charity Lotto of $500. There will be a Power Pioneer gift for the local Branch winner and the Provincial winner will have the $500 prize donated in their name to the registered charity of their choice. Points need to be in to your Lifestyle Rep by December 1, 2005 to be eligible for the Charity Lotto draw and by 31 December to be eligible for the 400 point incentive vest. (See paragraph 4 here:) http://www.powerpioneers.com/Programs_and_Projects/lifestyle.aspx So whoever wins the lottery will name a charity of his or her choice, that is listed with the Hydrec's Power Pioneer program to receive the winnings. The basis here is a lottery! The Watchtower Society as well as several congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses have made sure that they were listed to benefit from this lottery. Even though 500 dollars isn't much money, nevertheless, many Jehovah's Witnesses have been unjustly disfellowshipped for lesser hypocritical acts or have disassociated themselves because of the double standard practices they have had to endure while associated with the Watchtower organization. The eligible charities listed at the link below associated with Jehovah's Witnesses are: Page 1 D36 Spanish East Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses A56 Spanish Central Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses 111 Watchtower Bible and Tract Society E38 Westwood Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses Page 2. C14 Coquitlam Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses Look for the letters and numbers to the left of the organization's name. Click here: http://www.powerpioneers.com/files/forms/A05-395_HYDRECS_Charity_List_-4.pdf Yet, we find this information found at the official Watchtower web site:
The Real Message in Lottery Ads
"Promoting lotteries . . . may be viewed as values education, teaching that gambling is a benign or even virtuous activity," say researchers at Duke University, in the United States, in a report submitted to the National Gambling Impact Study Commission. What effect does lottery advertising really have on the community? The report states: "It is probably not an exaggeration to say that the message of lottery advertising is a subversive one—that success lies in picking the right number. This perverse 'education' initiative being promulgated by the lottery agencies may have the ironic effect of reducing government revenues over the long run, by reducing economic growth. Specifically, if the lottery promotion erodes the propensities to work, save, and self-invest in education and training, the consequence will eventually attenuate growth in productivity. In any case, betting on a miracle is not the formula for success we usually teach to our children." Scroll down here for the above quote: http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2002/7/22/article_02.htm Avoid the Snare of Gambling
By developing a relationship with Jehovah God, you too can find the strength and wisdom necessary to avoid the snare of gambling. Doing so will improve your financial, emotional, and spiritual health. You will then have the pleasure of experiencing for yourself the truthfulness of the words recorded at Proverbs 10:22: "The blessing of Jehovah—that is what makes rich, and he adds no pain with it."
Above quote is the last paragraph here:
http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2002/7/22/article_03.htm
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Let's play a game - Follow the WTS $$ trail
by watch the tower ina huge question that i have in the back of my mind regarding the wts is where all of the money ends up.
no one really has a conclusive answer to that.
i think it would reveal a lot if we were able to find out.. i know there have been various threads in the past where it revealed a clue here and a clue there.
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Laundering Money always helps in bumping up the increase of the "money trail" for the Watchtower! http://www.freeminds.org/history/launder.htm From Randy: The Watchtower Way of Laundering Money
by Randall Watters
Previous to a major policy change in 1990, Watchtower literature was distributed at what was termed a "specified contribution" price for each item. Witness canvassers (called "publishers") bought their literature supplies from the congregation and then resold these from door-to-door. All monies were then remitted to the Society's headquarters in Brooklyn, New York.
The new policy announced in 1990 detailed a complete donation basis for literature. It was now to be supplied without charge to congregations, but contribution boxes are placed by the counter for donations from the publishers, supposedly to cover the cost of printing and distribution. In the field, donations for the items are solicited, but are supposedly not necessary in order to obtain books and magazines. Such donations received from the public are then to be brought back to the Kingdom Hall and sent to the Society.
What was the motivation for these changes? The Society's answer was that less paperwork would be needed and the literature could be more easily distributed. "By adopting a method of literature distribution based completely on donation, Jehovah's people are able to greatly simplify our Bible education work and separate ourselves from those who commercialize religion." (Letter from the Watch Tower Society to all U.S. congregations dated February 21, 1990.)
The second reason given about `separating ourselves from those who commercialize religion' alluded to the real reason for the Society's change in literature distribution. Just one month before the new policy was announced, the Society watched how the Supreme Court ruled in California Board of Equalization vs. Jimmy Swaggart Ministries. California wanted to assess sales taxes on the sale of books and tapes and other items by Swaggart's ministry. The Watch Tower Society filed amicus curiae (a friend of the court legal brief) in support of Swaggart's position, that a religious organization should be exempt from such taxation. On Jan. 17, 1990, just a little over a month before the Society's change in policy, the Supreme Court ruled against Swaggart and permitted taxation. The Society's new policy avoided any liability for taxation by taking the financial transaction out of the picture (donations cannot be taxed).
The new policy was primarily a tax dodge. The side benefit to the Watchtower was that they received monies TWICE for the items, if all went as planned: Perhaps a dollar or two for a small book when you picked up the literature from the Kingdom Hall, and if you received a donation for the book from the householder, you were required to bring this back to the Hall and deposit it as well. (Hmmm..., something's fishy!)
The Society's letter outlining the new policy took great pains to emphasize that the donation policy was not a subterfuge for continued specified prices. The claim was made that "we will not suggest a specific donation." (Letter dated February 9, 1990.) Yet a subsequent letter gave instructions on how to suggest the old prices for Watchtower and Awake! subscriptions:
"It may be that the subscriber will ask how much is expected. The publisher should inform the subscriber that the making of a donation or the amount of such is entirely up to the subscriber. The publisher may inform the subscriber that some have donated $5 and others $10 or more, but the amount is left up to the subscriber. Whether or not a donation is made the subscription will be renewed ... If it turns out that a subscriber does not make a donation, as Jehovah God's fellow workers we have the opportunity to support that work, depending on our circumstances." (Letter dated February 21, 1990)
Here the WT Society is telling Witnesses to suggest $5 or $10 for subscriptions, which is the previous rate. Interestingly, the Society also suggests that if Witnesses can't collect that from the public, then the Witnesses themselves have the opportunity to donate to cover for the public.
So what happens when people currently write in to the Society asking for literature?
Apparently, literature, including magazine subscriptions, can rarely be obtained through the mail any longer. Even renewal notices for return mail are no longer sent, the householder being informed that they must obtain all materials through their local Kingdom Hall. Even at Watchtower headquarters in New York, only two or three items can be requested at a time from the Society's Furman Street literature counter. The Society's literature is free, but only in limited supply.
More recently, attempts to obtain the Watchtower's new CD-ROM computer disk (containing all of their publications on electronic media, some back to 1950) have yielded interesting results. Because the May 1994 Our Kingdom Ministry (p. 7) "suggests" a price of $25 or $50, though not in so many words, publishers are often requiring a minimum payment, sometimes up front, before they will order the CD-ROM disk. In one case, the JW is demanding $40 before he will place the order! It seems that Witnesses are taught to be more and more deceptive as time passes, which is merely a reflection of their mother (the organization).
Apparently, their recent significant drop in income, coupled with the failure of rank-and-file Witnesses to donate funds sufficient to their liking for materials received "free" has caused the Watchtower to make the following statement in the November 1996 issue (p.3) of their in-house bulletin entitled Our Kingdom Ministry:
Share With Others According to Their Needs
Jehovah makes provision to fill our spiritual needs through the faithful "slave". (Matt 24:45-47) Many of these provisions are in the form of books, Bibles, bound volumes, videos, audiocassette recordings, and computer disks for Bible research. What Jehovah supplies is always sufficient without being wasteful. He expects us to share with one another, making sure that all benefit equally. All such provisions are produced at tremendous financial cost. These expenses are cared for by the worldwide brotherhood. This is especially true since the organization instituted the arrangement to distribute literature without charge, depending entirely on voluntary donations to cover the expense. Additionally, many branches obtain these provisions from the Society at a cost that enables the brothers to have what they need for meetings and field activity even though they have very limited material resources.
How we can help. We can respond to Paul's admonition to share with others "according to their needs." (Rom 12:13) When we make financial contributions toward the worldwide work, we are directly sharing what we have with our brothers around the world. With this in mind, some have decided to set aside an amount to contribute to the worldwide work each month, just as they do for Kingdom Hall expenses. They recognize that these funds are used not only for literature production but for all facets of the work as well. Imagine the great benefit our worldwide brotherhood would experience if more would share in this way on a regular basis.
Further, we can share with them by always being conservative when requesting items that are readily available to us. Ordering only what we actually need allows our brothers elsewhere to receive the spiritual provisions that they also need to keep strong and to advance the preaching of the good news in their part of the world.-Heb.13:16.
We should especially bear this in mind when we request items that are produced at considerable expense to the Society. These include videos, CD-ROMs, large reference books, bound volumes and audiocassette subscriptions. Rather than requesting one item for each member of the household, could the entire family get along with just one? If we limit what we take for ourselves, it will allow others to obtain the same good things that we enjoy. -Phil. 2:4. The cost of literature that we place in the field may be offset in part by donations to the Society's worldwide work offered by us at the Kingdom Hall and by interested ones who accept it. However, when it comes to literature items we request for our personal use, including songbooks, Yearbooks, deluxe Bibles, and so forth, we cannot expect outsiders to care for our needs. Jehovah's dedicated servants are the primary source of this financial support. With that in mind, many publishers estimate what these items might cost if commercially produced and then they contribute accordingly. For example, a deluxe gold-edged Bible can easily cost $20 or more, a reference book may be $40 and up, a full-color wall calendar may sell for at least $5, an encyclopedia on CD-ROM costs from $50 to $100 or higher, music compact discs commonly cost close to $20 and some videos are often sold for much more. A failure to contribute enough to cover costs will ultimately restrict what the organization may otherwise be able to accomplish in furthering the worldwide work.
Jesus declared that his true disciple would be clearly identified by their love for one another. (John 13:34, 35) Our generosity in giving materially and our unselfishness in sharing with other according to their needs are surely fine ways to prove ourselves to be genuine Christians.
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additional notes:
It is interesting how they have even "raised the price" of a number of items! They appear be suggesting a donation of $50-100 for the CD-ROM instead of $25 to $50, and $40 for reference works such as Insight on the Scriptures. Since their costs of producing CD-ROMs could not exceed two dollars each (probably closer to $1), one wonders who they are trying to deceive.
One investigator sent in a donation to the Watchtower "equivalent to that once specified" for some literature, just to see what would happen. A letter, and an additional card was sent back. The letter was a "thank you" letter acknowleding a donation, but containing no hint as to any literature involved. But the card sent with it stated, "We are pleased to inform you that your request for Bible literature has been honored and will be mailed seperately." Using this technique, the WT feels they are going to avoid legal complications. Time will tell as to whether the State of California decides to reopen the case with regards to the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society.
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Let's play a game - Follow the WTS $$ trail
by watch the tower ina huge question that i have in the back of my mind regarding the wts is where all of the money ends up.
no one really has a conclusive answer to that.
i think it would reveal a lot if we were able to find out.. i know there have been various threads in the past where it revealed a clue here and a clue there.
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From Randy:
http://www.freeminds.org/history/wtinnewyork.htm Watchtower Property in New York
If you click on each link, you'll find information about each property
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