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  The Gibbering Body is Ramping Up the Fear-Factor!

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the latest study edition of the washtowel, (july 2019) the minions are being warned, "prepare now for persecution.".

  what a coincidence!

  the bbc's headline story today states that more than 200 christians have been slaughtered .

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  Persecution they bring upon themselves. Just like in Rutherford's day.

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  VIDEO - Memorial toast stuns Jehovahs Witnesses congregation!

  by John_Carter_1912 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i applaud this great and holy man!

  do you?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fstqepi9iu.

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  scruffmcbuff:

  I agree. I don't like that approach either. It is counter-productive and fuels the fire for their claim of persecution. Every picture I have viewed for the past 2 years has shown Kingdom Halls half empty or less.

  Your time span of 15 to 20 years may even prove to show a hint of kindness. The rate of decrease is becoming more and more evident.

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  VIDEO - Memorial toast stuns Jehovahs Witnesses congregation!

  by John_Carter_1912 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i applaud this great and holy man!

  do you?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fstqepi9iu.

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  ShirleyW:

  Shirley your the best! What a gut buster!

  beer bellies the size of a woman in her ninth month carrying quintuplets.

  I laughed so hard I nearly spit my coffee all over the screen.

  and this:

  When the steadfast old folks die away, you'll be able to hold the meetings in the basement of someone's house like the old Tuesday night book study.

  Classic! And very accurate. Shirley, you keep me laughing like this and I'll have to run and get my blood-pressure meds.

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  Are Christians to be Witnesses of Jesus or Jehovah?

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was doing research on another topic and this question came to mind.

  notice how the wts dances around the question below and then my comments about that and whether historically did the wts see isaiah as applying to all jws or only anointed members, spiritual israel (galatians 6:16)?.

  are christians to be witnesses of jesus or jehovah?.

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  Blondie:

  Brilliant! Great stuff here to remind us how the Watchtower dances to their own tune and their own tossed salad Bible. In order to understand their doctrines, you have got to bring your own salad dressing and bacon bits.

  And don't forget your wallet either!

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  FreeAgent--See If This HLC Brochure Helps!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the hlc brochure; (workbook to assist with conscience matters involving blood).

  leaves no conscience choice for jw doctors or jw nurses in this matter.. page 11, in the 2nd box it states:jehovah's witnesses and health"jehovah's witnesses, some of whom are physicians and nurses, are known worldwide for their rejection of transfusions involving whole blood or primary blood components.

  does their united stand against this practice stem from man-made doctrine or a belief that a person's faith can heal medical ailments?

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  Corney:

  Ok, many thanks, I'll keep looking for a letter. You included some very good info.

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  FreeAgent--See If This HLC Brochure Helps!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the hlc brochure; (workbook to assist with conscience matters involving blood).

  leaves no conscience choice for jw doctors or jw nurses in this matter.. page 11, in the 2nd box it states:jehovah's witnesses and health"jehovah's witnesses, some of whom are physicians and nurses, are known worldwide for their rejection of transfusions involving whole blood or primary blood components.

  does their united stand against this practice stem from man-made doctrine or a belief that a person's faith can heal medical ailments?

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  The HLC brochure; (Workbook to Assist With Conscience Matters Involving Blood). leaves no conscience choice for JW doctors or JW nurses in this matter.

  
  Page 11, in the 2nd box it states:

  
  Jehovah's Witnesses and Health
  "Jehovah's Witnesses, some of whom are physicians and nurses, are known worldwide for their rejection of transfusions involving whole blood or primary blood components. Does their united stand against this practice stem from man-made doctrine or a belief that a person's faith can heal medical ailments? That is far from the truth."

  
  https://docdro.id/3Hrpn1b
  
  Many HLC brochures are not published by the Watchtower, which gives them a "way out" of having to take responsibility.
  On this page at the bottom it states:

  
  The medical section of jw.org is designed as an informational resource primarily for use by clinicians and other health-care professionals. It provides neither medical advice nor treatment recommendations and does not substitute for an appropriately qualified health-care provider. The clinical literature cited is not published by Jehovah’s Witnesses, but it outlines transfusion-alternative strategies that might be considered. It is the responsibility of each qualified health-care provider to maintain awareness of new information, discuss options for care, and assist patients in making choices in accord with their medical condition, wishes, values, and beliefs. Not all listed strategies are appropriate or acceptable to all patients.
  
  https://www.jw.org/en/medical-library/strategies-downloads/
  
  This might be some good evidence, but I would still feel better if I could get my hands on a letter. Getting a copy of that letter is going to be very rare.
  
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  New Blood policy for JW medical professionals?

  by FreeAgent in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  hey folks, .

  it’s been a long time since i’ve posted, good to see the forum well attended & spicy as ever.

  this just in from a close & trusted source, names & local places redacted for obvious reasons:.

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  Blondie:

  Those are some really good quotes. Thank you! I searched those HLC videos but couldn't find anything relating to what we are looking for. I'll keep looking.

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  Orange County, CA: New Case and New Legal Tactic

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  john roe 1 vs. defendant doe 1, congregation is a child sexual abuse case pending before the superior court of california, orange county (judge john c. gastelum).

  jury trial is scheduled on june 15, 2020, but it may not occur: the judge is expected to decide on multiple pre-trial motions including motion for sanctions filed by plantiffs; next hearing on pre-trial motions is scheduled on may 14.. case docket is available here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dbqcronnkeax492pshgwpuoubt-xaabz/view?usp=sharing .

  case documents are available for purchase here: https://ocapps.occourts.org/civilwebshoppingns/search.do (case number 30-2014-00741722-cu-po-cjc).. during the course of this litigation the court ordered watchtower to produce molestation complaints it received, redacting only names of victims and elders handling the matters.

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  Corney:

  Thank you very much!

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  New Blood policy for JW medical professionals?

  by FreeAgent in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  hey folks, .

  it’s been a long time since i’ve posted, good to see the forum well attended & spicy as ever.

  this just in from a close & trusted source, names & local places redacted for obvious reasons:.

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  FreeAgent:

  Yes, we sure do need that letter or statement of some kind. A while back we sent out some HLC leaked videos, and I thought I might review them to see if there might be an indication of a statement of sorts.

  This isn't just about transfusions, this also affects the jobs of many JW medical staff members. If a JW nurse told her superiors that she could no longer administer a transfusion under any circumstances, she might get put on the pink list to get the boot.

  I'll check those videos again to see. I wasn't looking for a statement like that the first time I viewed them and it could have slipped right by me.

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  New Blood policy for JW medical professionals?

  by FreeAgent in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  hey folks, .

  it’s been a long time since i’ve posted, good to see the forum well attended & spicy as ever.

  this just in from a close & trusted source, names & local places redacted for obvious reasons:.

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  doinmypart:

  Yes, I have heard about this letter and I am wondering if it was just sent out to HLC. All the examples that have been shared indicate that it was "read" to medical staff members, but I keep wondering if a copy can be obtained.

  I am still trying to see if I can get a copy, which would help greatly to clear up any confusion.

  If there are any doctors or nurses that could help us get something in writing, it would be most appreciated.

  Atlantis!