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2019 Watchtower Accounting Training Videos & Files-English/German!
by Atlantis in2019 accounting training videos and files.. english and german--zipped folder.https://we.tl/t-qgjbjiqyiv 2019 files and forms-english and german--zipped folder.https://we.tl/t-qh1yjjaktk atlantis!
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2019 Watchtower Accounting Training Videos & Files-English/German!
by Atlantis in2019 accounting training videos and files.. english and german--zipped folder.https://we.tl/t-qgjbjiqyiv 2019 files and forms-english and german--zipped folder.https://we.tl/t-qh1yjjaktk atlantis!
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2019 Accounting Training Videos and Files.
English and German--Zipped Folder.https://we.tl/t-QGjbJIqYiv
2019 Files and Forms-English and German--Zipped Folder.https://we.tl/t-QH1yjJakTk
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7 New Files Arrived!
by Atlantis in2019-09-01--local design construction update.
all the descriptions for the files disappeared after i clicked (save).
there is the september announcements and reminders, 2020 convention dates, ldc newsletter, congregation analysis report, 2019 publications approved for discard, and congregation-convention assignments... https://docdro.id/bw85yom.
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2019-09-01--Local Design Construction Update. All the descriptions for the files disappeared after I clicked (Save). There is the September Announcements and Reminders, 2020 Convention dates, LDC Newsletter, Congregation Analysis report, 2019 Publications Approved for Discard, and Congregation-Convention Assignments..
https://docdro.id/ASyOnO9
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How a rumor of assassination spooked the Watchtower
by Terry inpresident kennedy's brother robert excited the world as a candidate for president 5 years after jfk's murder.rfk, in turn, was murdered.the assassin's name was sirhan sirhan, he was palestinian.it just so happened the assassin's father, bishara, was a member in good standing as one of jehovah’s witnesses.so what?
so this:this seemingly innocent fact would jolt jehovah's witnesses into a near panic.
i know because i was there.here are the facts as i remember them.______the jehovah's witness, bishara sirhan unfortunately had a reputation in his neighborhood and community for being excitable, even volatile at times.
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Terry:
They have no shame.
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I remember every bit of that and you are right, the Watchtower has no shame. The mob could take lessons from the Watchtower's fear-mongering.
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How to avoid getting disfellowshipped for having a wordly girlfriend?
by cookiemaster inhey guys, i've been pimo going on full inactive for a very long time, 5+ years.
pretty happy with the current situation.
over the years, i've gotten lots of grief from the local elders and cos for my inactivity, attending wordly public events and social media posts.
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MeanMrMustard:
You really don’t need to beat them at their own game. Just don’t play.
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There are cases where that idea has worked out best. Honesty right up front can at least get you your freedom.
I know EXJW's that have walked up to their JW family members and said: I do not want to be a JW anymore and you can take it or leave it. Your choice!
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How to avoid getting disfellowshipped for having a wordly girlfriend?
by cookiemaster inhey guys, i've been pimo going on full inactive for a very long time, 5+ years.
pretty happy with the current situation.
over the years, i've gotten lots of grief from the local elders and cos for my inactivity, attending wordly public events and social media posts.
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I am in contact with a former bethelite on a regular basis. I have known him for 10 years. He was fading 10 years ago and he still hates the Watchtower, but he has never been disfellowshipped.
Once in a while (maybe once or twice a year he might make a visit to a meeting.) He also makes the claim that poor health restricts him from attending regularly. He gets away with it.
There have been no shepherding calls to him or his wife who is very ill. Both of them read Crisis Of Conscience and could have been disfellowshipped just for reading that book.
Never answer any direct questions from JW's. Such as: (Are you coming to the Sunday meeting?)....or Will we see you at the Memorial? Never answer any direct questions from an Elder about worldly associations. If they ask, tell them that the person is a fellow employee. A person you "work" with.
Never say the word "No" to questions about whether you still want to be a JW. Make them think you are actually trying to help your girlfriend into the truth without actually doing so. (Just let them believe that way), remember, people are making videos with hidden microphones and cameras, THE ELDERS CAN DO THE SAME THING.
In Search Of Christian Freedom by Ray Franz reminds us that the JW leadership in Greece, were arrested because they were caught with a surveillance camera taking pictures of JW's and people who were not JW's.
When a person is maked the shunning starts and it only gets worse unless the person goes back and conforms to the "theocratic" guidelines, and that means living the "traditions" of a JW.
Put them on a long string! Go to a meeting....and then disappear for 3 or 4 months, then appear again at a meeting just enough to satisfy their judgemental attitudes. Then disappear again.
My bethelite friend has been doing it for ten years and he doesn't even get a shepherding call, because the elders just don't want to bother with him or his wife anymore. They are just too busy with other things.
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Happy Fathers day
by zeb ini understand fathers day is celebrated on various dates around the world but here is oz its today so to all the dads where ever you are,.
happy fathers day!.
livelong prosper in health wisdom and love.. zeb.
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zeb:
Livelong prosper in health wisdom and love.
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Now we are getting somewhere! I am buying! Set em up bartender! And give zeb a double won't you?
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How to avoid getting disfellowshipped for having a wordly girlfriend?
by cookiemaster inhey guys, i've been pimo going on full inactive for a very long time, 5+ years.
pretty happy with the current situation.
over the years, i've gotten lots of grief from the local elders and cos for my inactivity, attending wordly public events and social media posts.
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It might be helpful for you to have the elder manual so that you can judge for yourself. (Link at bottom) You can search in the book to answer your questions. Remember, if two elders show up at your door and ask you if you still want to be a JW and you say "No", they can disfellowship you. They can also disfellowship you if you say "No" on the phone!
When a JW decides that they no longer want to "practice" the "traditions" that JW's are known for, then they are "marked" and if they do not change, more than likely there will be a judicial committee formed and a request for you to meet with them.
They will attempt to "readjust" your thinking and bring you back to "their" form of worship. Their form of worship is "regular" meeting attendance and ministry work. Living a life a JW lives day to day.
If they meet with you and still there is "no change" after their "claim" that they tried to help you, then they may "watch" you for a time. (Surveillance) this goes on all the time. And when they see that you are making yourself a "part of the world" by associating with worldly people on a regular basis, they may go ahead and announce that you are no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses. (In the old days they called it (Conduct Unbecoming of a Christian....or "Bringing Reproach Upon Jehovah's Name....or "Causing Divisions Within The Congregation".
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How to avoid getting disfellowshipped for having a wordly girlfriend?
by cookiemaster inhey guys, i've been pimo going on full inactive for a very long time, 5+ years.
pretty happy with the current situation.
over the years, i've gotten lots of grief from the local elders and cos for my inactivity, attending wordly public events and social media posts.
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2019 Shepherd The Flock of God--Chapter 12
For example, if a baptized Christian is dating an ‘unbeliever,’ the
elders should first counsel him and try to help him. (2 Cor. 6:14;
w04 7/1 pp. 30-31) If he persists in disregarding Bible principles
in spite of repeated admonition, the body of elders may decide
that a warning talk should be given to the congregation.If an individual is dating an unbaptized publisher, a warning talk may
not be needed. Much would depend on the circumstances, on the
attitude of the Christian, on the level of disturbance to the congregation,
and other factors. Nonetheless, if he is dating with a view to marrying someone who is unbaptized, he is not obeying the Bible’s counsel at 1 Corinthians 7:39 to marry “only in the Lord,” and loving counsel should be given.
80. If the disorderly one is moved to change, the elders can individually decide to resume personally socializing with him. This will indicate to the congregation that they consider that the individual
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3-File Requests: Destroy Notes BOE--Publications For Discard--Where Are The Nine!
by Atlantis in2019-08-28 destroy notes.. https://docdro.id/ojsdss2.
2012--2018 publications approved for discard.
https://docdro.id/llottt0.
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Listener:
I would love a lawyer to show that letter in court.
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Totally agree!
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