Some people are relativists, and other people hate relativism. Honestly, I can see it both ways.
slimboyfat
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Good Guys VS Bad Guys: Facts Nobody Wants to KNow
by TerryWalstrom infacts we don't want to know.
the purpose of war is to kill humans.. .
which humans?.
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Good Guys VS Bad Guys: Facts Nobody Wants to KNow
by TerryWalstrom infacts we don't want to know.
the purpose of war is to kill humans.. .
which humans?.
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slimboyfat
A regime that is secure in its position doesn’t need to be brutal. It’s when it is insecure that it becomes violent and repressive. Stable western regimes outsource repression and brutality to the periphery of the system. Hence Britain and America detain and torture people in the Middle East, Africa and Guantanamo bay, rather than at home. They outlaw slavery at home but source products from countries where workers are slaves in all but name. The repression and suffering of a capitalist system are just as real, but are more effectively kept out of sight. Stalin ordered the deaths of those around him. The president orders the deaths of strangers across the world by drone. One we call barbarism, the other we call defending civilisation.
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Paterson 1998 what was going on??
by Crazyguy inanyone know what may have been gong on at paterson in 1998?
i was listening to a interview and and ex bethelite relative was asking him what was going with the wt up off route 22. this person told him that ten oil or gas delivery trucks per day, the big ones were delivering to the wt.
i’m assuming it was to paterson not knowing if any other properties were or are owned by wt off of route 22?
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New World Translation REVISED Editions
by Wonderment ini have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.
here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.
albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .
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slimboyfat
I have been told that in Germany the new literature contains the new wording of a the revised version that hasn’t been released yet. So the scriptures quoted in the literature doesn’t match the wording of the NWT version they use either in print or online. Can anyone in Germany confirm that?
If so it seems the new German version is complete but hasn’t been printed and distributed, similar to rumours about the Spanish version having been completed years ago.
Sir82 the fact is there were around 200 million copies of the old NWT printed between 1950 and 2013 when the number of JWs averaged around 3 million over the whole period. So how many copies would be needed between 2013 and 2018 when there are over 8 million JWs? I think 50 million is a reasonable estimate. I personally have three copies of the 2013 NWT in English and two foreign language versions. I think it’s very common for JWs to have a few copies of the Bible each, and to replace them periodically as well.
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New World Translation REVISED Editions
by Wonderment ini have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.
here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.
albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .
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slimboyfat
The reason the NWT was released in English (and Korean and Portuguese) was apparently timing. These versions were printed and ready to go before the financial crisis hit Watchtower in 2015.
The question you’ve got to ask is, how bad must the financial position be that they need to sudden sell off branches, send bethelites home, cancel the yearbook, and even cancel Bibles in languages that are apparently already completed.
If Watchtlwer can’t afford to print Bibles now, will they ever be able to print them? Lawsuits are mounting, members are decreasing in rich countries and increasing poor countries. If they are already in trouble now, what is it going to be like next year, and the year after that? How can they turn it around?
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New World Translation REVISED Editions
by Wonderment ini have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.
here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.
albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .
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slimboyfat
It was the new translation because one of the contentions was the insertion of "Jehovah" in the NT.
The old version would have had Jehovah in the NT as well, no?
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New World Translation REVISED Editions
by Wonderment ini have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.
here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.
albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .
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slimboyfat
Wonderment there have been no charges for literature anywhere since 2000 at the latest.
I wonder about some of the obscure language releases too. I wonder how many copies of the 2013 NWT have actually been printed in Gun, Ewe and Amharic, for example. Probably some Bibles have been printed in these obscure languages, but perhaps not promoted for general circulation. Even in English the Bibles are not as ubiquitous as they used to be. There is definite pressure to use all literature online rather than print copies, including the Bible.
If their financial position is as bad as I suspect it is they may not be able to afford to print more Bibles in other languages, or even in English.
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JW's are slaves- but not in a good way
by joey jojo ini was reading about the american slave trade again recently.
as anyone who has read anything about the subject knows, it makes for very uncomfortable reading.
every time i read the history, i'm left with a sense of outrage and seething anger at the pure inhumanity and injustice of what life must have been like for those people.
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slimboyfat
Morph, don’t want to alarm you, but you’re missing a good collapse thread.
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Do you miss that initial "high" ??
by stuckinarut2 indo you remember the first time you found out "the truth about the truth"?.
yes, it was confronting, shocking and life altering.
yes it was hard to deal with.. but, along with that, many have said that they experienced a sense of thrill, euphoria, or joy when realising the facts about the religion that held us captive mentally and physically for so long.. it was liberating to learn some of the controversial teachings etc.
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slimboyfat
I wouldn’t describe it as a high. I do remember reading Apocalypse Delayed, CofC and anything else if could get my hands on late into the night. In fact for days on end with little interruption. But also Bible topics and research too.
Mind you, I still read quite a lot.
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New World Translation REVISED Editions
by Wonderment ini have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.
here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.
albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .
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slimboyfat
The only reasonable explanation for the delay is cost.
As far as I can make out, there are only four languages with the 2013 NWT that have more than 100,000 JWs: English, Portuguese, Korean and Italian. English and Portuguese versions were released in 2015 before the financial crisis struck. Korean was released even earlier.
Languages with more than 100,000 JWs that have no new Bible include: Spanish, French, German, Polish, Russian, Japanese, Tagalog.
There is no conceivable reason why these languages should take years longer to produce than Gun, Ewe, Amharic, Dutch and so on, other than cost.
Plus rumours that the German and Spanish translations are completed by not released.
They are probably wondering if they can get away with releasing Spanish, German, French and so on as digital only. They may have no other choice.