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  Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Baker Who Refused to Bake Cake for Gay Couple

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  seems like such an obviously correct decision to overturn the previous overreach - it should never have been necessary to go to the supreme court but happened because the rights of the religious were being ignored.. as the fundamental level, no one should be able to compel you to work for them or to provide services that go against your beliefs, and certainly not have the government be able to force you to comply.. if this was allowed there would be so many unreconcilable situations that would clog up courts over nonsense.. i also have little patience for these activists that intentionally look to be offended.

  it really doesn't do their cause any good to go round looking to make trouble for people.

  it's also misguided because it ends up strengthening religious rights over effectively stupid issues.. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/04/us/politics/supreme-court-sides-with-baker-who-turned-away-gay-couple.html.

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  Celebrating a wedding is not offensive. If a business owner thinks otherwise and wants to discriminate on the basis of his beliefs then he’s the one who’s got a problem. He can have those beliefs all he wants but he should not be allowed to use a business to project that prejudice in public. Why? Because it’s rightly against the law to discriminate in a public setting on the basis of race, gender or sexuality. You can’t refuse a service because someone is black and you can’t refuse a service because someone is gay. It’s really incredibly simple.

  People comparing a wedding cake to asking someone to collaborate in making something offensive need to have a talk with themselves. It’s a wedding cake. Get a grip.

  This forum may be a bastion for prejudiced views (down to 17%, quite a minority) but thank goodness society is headed is a completely different direction. Enjoy your Pyrrhic victory.

  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-baker-poll/most-americans-oppose-businesses-refusing-to-serve-gay-people-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1J02WN
  
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  Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Baker Who Refused to Bake Cake for Gay Couple

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  seems like such an obviously correct decision to overturn the previous overreach - it should never have been necessary to go to the supreme court but happened because the rights of the religious were being ignored.. as the fundamental level, no one should be able to compel you to work for them or to provide services that go against your beliefs, and certainly not have the government be able to force you to comply.. if this was allowed there would be so many unreconcilable situations that would clog up courts over nonsense.. i also have little patience for these activists that intentionally look to be offended.

  it really doesn't do their cause any good to go round looking to make trouble for people.

  it's also misguided because it ends up strengthening religious rights over effectively stupid issues.. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/04/us/politics/supreme-court-sides-with-baker-who-turned-away-gay-couple.html.

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  slimboyfat

  If you are a business, how can you refuse to make a cake for someone’s wedding, if your business is making wedding cakes? On the grounds that you don’t agree with their sexuality? How can that be legal? I think reactionaries probably ought to enjoy their victory here while it lasts, because it surely can’t stand. It’s no different than a hotel owner claiming they are at liberty to refuse other races as guests if they wish. An argument that isn’t likely to impress many people these days,
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  Only one real point per WT study...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anyone else noticed that in the wt study articles the main point they want you to remember is always somewhere around paragraph 11-14?

  it's like a formula.

  intro and overview paragraphs 1-4. basic wt stuff 5-8 (not controversial).

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  slimboyfat

  Let me get straight to the point here. Yes you are correct. This is a true observation you have made.
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  I've graduated at last

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after a bit of a kerfuffle over a procedural matter, my university has awarded me a degree.

  (the procedural problem was caused by my independent selection of what i wanted to study).

  award : bachelor of arts.

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  slimboyfat

  Those look like some very interesting topics you covered.
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  Our very own pale.emperor on the "shunned" podcast.......

  by dubstepped in

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  2. experiences

  well, i offered in one of his threads to have him on the show and posters seemed excited at the possibility and we got it done so now you can hear from the man himself on the newest episode of "shunned".

  one of our very own stepped up to tell his story, well, aside from myself of course.

  it was great getting to actually speak with him.. this is my first international interview for the podcast.

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  slimboyfat

  Is he famous? And where is he emperor of?
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  LEAKED: WHQ Accounts: 2016-2020 Budget

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 1 of 5] https://youtu.be/g08tw2v3b4s.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 2 of 5] https://youtu.be/rpceb5v0vbe.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 3 of 5] https://youtu.be/2xa08ukc_6i.

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  slimboyfat

  Any JWs who wander onto this site and stumble on these videos are likely to end up contributing less to WT as a result, not more.

  They need to be careful how they handle the messaging around their financial crisis. Because if they come out and say: “we are in a desperate situation because brothers are contributing less”, all their audience is likely to hear is “most JWs are contributing less”, and contribute less themselves.
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  So What Drastic Money Change is Next?

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  okay, they cheapened the product by getting rid of hardcover books.

  they reduced printing of mags.

  they drastically reduced the number of pieces of printed paper that members would "place" in people's hands in various ways, the biggest one being that they put them on a cart and don't encourage people to take them.they cut d.o.

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  What else do you think the real estate sales are for???

  To cover running costs, which was hinted in Lett’s broadcast in 2015 (“the sale of a property only covers costs for a few months”) and confirmed by these comments made for an internal audience.
  
  
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  LEAKED: WHQ Accounts: 2016-2020 Budget

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 1 of 5] https://youtu.be/g08tw2v3b4s.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 2 of 5] https://youtu.be/rpceb5v0vbe.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 3 of 5] https://youtu.be/2xa08ukc_6i.

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  slimboyfat

  A ploy to extract more donations.

  They staged internal discussions of financial crisis, and leaked them so that a few JWs who wonder onto apostate websites might view them and increase their contribitions? Wow that’s some extreme collapse denial rationalisation going on there! (Approaching Morph level of delusion) No amount of evidence will convince some people that WT is in financial difficulty.
  
  
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  LEAKED: WHQ Accounts: 2016-2020 Budget

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 1 of 5] https://youtu.be/g08tw2v3b4s.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 2 of 5] https://youtu.be/rpceb5v0vbe.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 3 of 5] https://youtu.be/2xa08ukc_6i.

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  slimboyfat

  The guy seated to the right looks like he doesn’t even want to read the material. He is over the top demonstrating that these words are scripted, they are not his. No wonder when he’s being asked to portray cutbacks as expansion. It’s embarrassing.
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  LEAKED: WHQ Accounts: 2016-2020 Budget

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 1 of 5] https://youtu.be/g08tw2v3b4s.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 2 of 5] https://youtu.be/rpceb5v0vbe.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 3 of 5] https://youtu.be/2xa08ukc_6i.

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  slimboyfat

  We should remember that all the cutbacks and cashgrabs in 2015 were supposed to deal with their financial crisis and get them “back on track”: confiscating congregation funds, selling branch buildings in New York, London, and elsewhere, cancelling projects, cutting staff and bethel services. Yet three years later how is it going? Did these measures bring relief?

  Apparently not. Because in 2018 they had to go even further: cutting yearbooks, magazines, nearly all printed material, no Bibles in Spanish. Internally they are insisting on 4% cuts from all branches in 2018 and 2019, on top of the cuts that have already been implemented. And everywhere around the world legal and financial pressure mounts. They are not emerging from this financial crisis, the crisis is deepening. They rightly have been criticised for not signing up to the fund for survivors in Australia. But apart from unwillingness, perhaps they simply cannot afford it. As in, not just unwilling to spend the money, but literally don’t have the money at all. Unless they contemplate closure, bankruptcy, collpase, whatever you want to call it.