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  Latest on Greg Stafford

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for all those who know who greg stafford is/was.

  the former "apostate/apologist and author of three dissertations and other books, is on page 2 of the march 2016 meeting work book.

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-meeting-workbook/march-2016-mwb/meeting-schedule-mar7-13/welcome-memorial-guests/.

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  slimboyfat

  To answer careful: Stafford has been promoting “Jah” and “Jah’s Witnesses” as names for around a decade or so.

  Stafford’s reasoning for using Jah instead of Jehovah is like this. He argues that the New Testament probably used the divine name in the original, but he admits that he cannot prove this. So his position is somewhat weaker than JWs. However Stafford is convinced that the divine name is important and he points out that, even if the divine name is not restored to the New Testament as a whole, even evangelical critics must admit that the shortened form of the divine name Jah appears in Revelation 19. Since this form of the divine name is securely in the New Testament text Stafford makes his case that this is the form Christians should use.

  Additionally is does also serve to position himself precisely where he is ideologically: closer to JWs than mainstream Christianity, but nevertheless distinct from JWs.

  I don’t know anything about the number, composition or spread of “Jah’s Witnsses” but I find it entirely plausible that Stafford has built up a small community of like-minded people through online and local networks.

  Edit: Sorry that’s right, he settled on the full title - Christian Witnesses of Jah. Not terribly elegant and a bit of a mouthful.
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  Latest on Greg Stafford

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for all those who know who greg stafford is/was.

  the former "apostate/apologist and author of three dissertations and other books, is on page 2 of the march 2016 meeting work book.

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-meeting-workbook/march-2016-mwb/meeting-schedule-mar7-13/welcome-memorial-guests/.

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  slimboyfat

  Very interesting to see this latest video, thanks. I’m probably one of the few people who has read practically everything Greg Stafford has published (in books and online), although admittedly my interest has dropped off in recent years. I think he’s had a tough time and I have often wondered what his ultimate goal is now in promoting selected JW beliefs independently of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Falling between two stools, and so largely neglected as irrelevant, can’t be a terribly comfortable place to be.
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  Cambridge professor just went full retard ...

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  ever heard of david runciman?.

  he's a professor of politics at the university of cambridge, no less.. he's also a complete retard, for want of a better word.

  according to prof. runciman, six year old children should get the vote, so as to counteract britain's aging population.

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  slimboyfat

  In the earlier post you mentioned the age when you are legally responsible for your actions (10) and in the later post you talked about the age of consent (16) and to buy alcohol (18).
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  Cambridge professor just went full retard ...

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  ever heard of david runciman?.

  he's a professor of politics at the university of cambridge, no less.. he's also a complete retard, for want of a better word.

  according to prof. runciman, six year old children should get the vote, so as to counteract britain's aging population.

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  slimboyfat

  What is the age of legal responsibility? Is it 10 in England and 12 in Scotland?
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  Cambridge professor just went full retard ...

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  ever heard of david runciman?.

  he's a professor of politics at the university of cambridge, no less.. he's also a complete retard, for want of a better word.

  according to prof. runciman, six year old children should get the vote, so as to counteract britain's aging population.

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  slimboyfat

  I responded to a comment about Dawkins and to the original post about children voting. (I added this later you may have missed it) Is that a problem?

  Not only is the Cambridge professor a retard for exploring a radical idea, but my response doesn’t meet the specifications for the debate either.

  Say LUHE would the world be a simpler place if you would just tell us what we can say without being retards or deviating from the script and we’ll just repeat after you?
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  Cambridge professor just went full retard ...

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  ever heard of david runciman?.

  he's a professor of politics at the university of cambridge, no less.. he's also a complete retard, for want of a better word.

  according to prof. runciman, six year old children should get the vote, so as to counteract britain's aging population.

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  slimboyfat

  I missed the Cofty episode where Dawkins transformed from a wise oracle to being tragically out of touch. What gives? Have Peterson, Harris, Dennett and others suffered a similar fate?

  Plus I welcome radical ideas because they make you check your assumptions. I just don’t see the worth in labelling people “retard” just for thinking outside the box.

  To me the important thing about voting is that it’s voluntary and the person has the ability to make their own decision. Most children don’t care about voting or may rely upon parents if asked to make a decision. Those are the main problems with children voting as I see it. But if there are a few children who want to vote and have their own ideas about who they want to vote for, on what basis do I say they are not allowed? It’s not such an easy question to answer really, because many adults lack such interest or independence yet they have the right anyway. Do we say they are not allowed just because they are children and for no other reason?
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  The Noble Fir

  by Oubliette in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the noble fir.

  the fir tree stands silently in the corner of our living room: proud, erect, strong.

  even unadorned, it is beautiful.

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  slimboyfat

  Yes oubliette was a good poster.
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  What JW Beliefs Did You Find Difficult To Explain?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  there are a lot.

  anything blood related was difficult to reasonably prove from a witness perspective.. 1914 was another one.

  what can you add to the list?

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  slimboyfat

  Hands down the overlapping generation. I can’t even explain how it’s meant to work in theory never mind explain it from the point of view of someone who believes it. It’s got to be some sort of joke, no? Although I admit I fail to see the funny side.
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  Shocking Example of JW Elder Corruption

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  let's play a game of believe it or not, shall we?

  i'll relate a story, and you decide whether you believe it or not.

  what would you think of an elder who told his daughter's fiance that he would kill him if he ever did anything to hurt his daughter?

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  slimboyfat

  This doesn’t strike me a particularly shocking to be honest. The age wouldn’t even be illegal in the UK. And if they ended up happily married where is the problem? Would it be better if they had been publicly shamed, shunned, relationship ruined and so on. Would that be less of a scandal?

  The only problematic angle is that such common sense is often not extended to individuals without important connections. But that’s the problem, not the action itself. Am I way out or what?
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  Connections between Christadelphians and Russell´s Biblestudents

  by oppostate in

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  2. beliefs

  the bible students and the christadelphians have a lot in common.. i searched on facebook... .

  and look what i found:https://www.facebook.com/christadelphianbiblestudents/.

  there´s even a group named like that..

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  slimboyfat

  The vast majority of members of the Iglesia ni Cristo Church live in the Philippines, and those congregations in other countries largely comprise migrants from the Philippines.

  If you think JWs are controlling then Iglesia ni Cristo are even more so.

  Other groups that are a bit similar to JWs worth checking out include the New Apostolic Church and Grace Communion International. Both these groups were sectarian in the past but have moved considerably more mainstream. In the case of Grace Communion Internarional they now accept the Trinity and they really emphasise this in their meetings. They often sing a song “we worship you God in Trinity” and they make frequent refenreces to the Trinity in sermons and prayers. In the case of the New Apostolic Church they are now at pains to emphasise that they do not regard their church as infallible or the only true church and state this often in their meetings.