Posts by slimboyfat

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Organized To Do Jehovah’s Will - Book.

by Lost in the fog in

did you know that the current organization book for jws is available to freely download from their jw(dot)org website?

seemingly gone are the days when it was treated with the same secrecy as the holy grail and wasn't shown to a bible student unless they were genuinely considering baptism.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/organized-to-do-jehovahs-will/.

slimboyfat

Notice on this page it has a list of publications, with subheading “organisation instructions” which includes the elders books from 1991.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200276167#h=956

Why does it include the 1991 elders books, but none of the more recent elders books?

It looks like one possible expanation for breaking the silence here on the 1991 book, is simply the fact that a picture of this book appears in the Proclaimers book, so it’s already “out there”. Even so, it seems a bit arbitrary, what they mention, and what remains secret.

Selective secrecy gets confusing.

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One simple photo to sum up the heartless and hypocritical attitudes of many Jehovah's Witnesses

by nicolaou in

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this was taken in london yesterday by a twitter user still managing his fade so i can't be more specific than that.

disgusting.

slimboyfat

In street photography the general rule is that if people are in public then they can be photographed, but often with exceptions for children, homeless people, and obviously no lewd angles, against which specific laws now apply. But shops, restaurants, libraries, and most places not literally “on the street” don’t count as public places. So JWs at carts are generally fair game for being photographed under general “street photography” conventions, since they are literally standing in public. Laws of course are bound to have all sorts of peculiarities and variations in different places, but these are very general rules of street photography.

I wrote this poem about street photography last week. 😉

Street Photography

I would love to be a street photographer

And capture the moment for posterity

I could play visual jokes

Using juxtaposition

And create something beautiful

By standing in the right place

Probably against the flow

And daring to be conspicuous

If absolutely needs be

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One simple photo to sum up the heartless and hypocritical attitudes of many Jehovah's Witnesses

by nicolaou in

jw
friends

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this was taken in london yesterday by a twitter user still managing his fade so i can't be more specific than that.

disgusting.

slimboyfat

I like street photography, but among many street photographers it’s frowned upon to photograph homeless people in particular without permission, because they are a particularly vulnerable group and don’t have access to private spaces as most others do. Plus they are a bit too easy a target for street photographers to photograph to create this or that effect or statement, often agendas bearing little relation to what is actually important in the life of the person being photographed.

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Baptism Question #2 Verified and Changed.

by truthlover123 in

pimo verified this at the latest assembly attended.

check on this forum.

he was giving us attendance and baptism info and this was a side note... it is noted by another that when the question was asked after assembly was over, non seemed to hear the change.

slimboyfat

Bizarre change, we may never know the reason why.

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Why the Catholic Church outlast Jehovah's Witnesses

by no-zombie in

many of us who are old timers in "truth", will clearly remember how we and the organization gloated when christendom began selling off their churches, as we saw many ending up becoming cafe's and art galleries.

i personally remember being told (both in general conversation and in print) that the fall of their congregant numbers meant that most churches were ultimately attended by the elderly and it was clearly linked to the "drying up of her waters" in reference to the fall of babylon and babylon the great..

how ironic, that this very situation has now befallen the society and our local kingdom halls..

slimboyfat

Another one smiddy3: how come Jesus taught his followers to pray for God’s will to be done “on earth as it is in heaven” if Satan still lived in heaven and would only be thrown out of heaven in 1914? Is there an official Watchtower answer to that problem?

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Subliminal Messaging

by truthlover123 in

for over 20 years subliminal pictures showed up in most books, wt, and awakes- eighties, nineties and into 2000's.... demons, gods, you name it-- .

question: is anyone seeing anything like this in todays publications?

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slimboyfat

Could be Hebrew - gimel, chet, lamed, dalet, vav... don’t know. Is there a word there?

I’m very skeptical about hidden images. The mind sees patterns everywhere. Patterns throw up faces and other images, or even words from time to time. It’s pretty difficult to demonstrate that any particular example is likely deliberate, in my view. Not convinced the black penis was deliberate, for example. But it’s entirely plausible it was removed when someone pointed it out.

Having said that, Watchtower artists probably do insert things in their drawings, which is pretty common among artists generally. In fact I think Watchtower admitted this and cracked down on it in the 1980s. (The famous statement that a GB member would monitor the images) So from another perspective it’s not a big deal either.

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jwfacts.com Have you looked at it?

by blondie in

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friends

i use this extensively rather than re-inventing the wheel.. paul grundy, the admin, keeps it up-to-date and welcomes any corrections or new information, especially in a well-written article, supported by wt publication quotes.. the 2 places i check first is www.jwfacts.com and then searching on jwn with key word(s) to see if the topic has been already extensively researched or commented on.. don't be frightened away by the material being more than 3 paragraphs.

the quotes from wt publications is are extensive and from publications that are older and less available.

i find it good to read many posts on a single topic and expand my knowledge and sources.. blondie.

slimboyfat

Although there are many reasons to be DFed, probably 90% plus of cases are forniaction, with apostasy making up most of the rest.

Does anyone know more unusual cases?

I know of one person DFed for smoking, one for drunkenness, one for heroin use, one for practising Feng Shui!

Does anyone know anyone DFed for “extorting” a high bride price!? Or other unusual rule.

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Why the Catholic Church outlast Jehovah's Witnesses

by no-zombie in

many of us who are old timers in "truth", will clearly remember how we and the organization gloated when christendom began selling off their churches, as we saw many ending up becoming cafe's and art galleries.

i personally remember being told (both in general conversation and in print) that the fall of their congregant numbers meant that most churches were ultimately attended by the elderly and it was clearly linked to the "drying up of her waters" in reference to the fall of babylon and babylon the great..

how ironic, that this very situation has now befallen the society and our local kingdom halls..

slimboyfat

Very interesting post, joe134cd 👍

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jwfacts.com Have you looked at it?

by blondie in

jw
friends

i use this extensively rather than re-inventing the wheel.. paul grundy, the admin, keeps it up-to-date and welcomes any corrections or new information, especially in a well-written article, supported by wt publication quotes.. the 2 places i check first is www.jwfacts.com and then searching on jwn with key word(s) to see if the topic has been already extensively researched or commented on.. don't be frightened away by the material being more than 3 paragraphs.

the quotes from wt publications is are extensive and from publications that are older and less available.

i find it good to read many posts on a single topic and expand my knowledge and sources.. blondie.

slimboyfat

Jwfacts is a good site for information.

I can remember when I first began to doubt Watchtower, I read absolutely everything I could find on Watchtower history. Whole websites, every single page. In particular: Watchtower Observer, Freeminds, Reachout, Carm, Watchtower Information Service, and many others.

Jwfacts was a bit too late for me, and I’ve only read bits of it. It if existed ten years earlier I am sure I would have read the whole website in a couple of days. But then, my attention span isn’t what it used to be.

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Why the Catholic Church outlast Jehovah's Witnesses

by no-zombie in

many of us who are old timers in "truth", will clearly remember how we and the organization gloated when christendom began selling off their churches, as we saw many ending up becoming cafe's and art galleries.

i personally remember being told (both in general conversation and in print) that the fall of their congregant numbers meant that most churches were ultimately attended by the elderly and it was clearly linked to the "drying up of her waters" in reference to the fall of babylon and babylon the great..

how ironic, that this very situation has now befallen the society and our local kingdom halls..

slimboyfat

Yes I find myself thinking similar thoughts. The growth of JWs during the 20th century was pretty impressive, despite those who like to downplay it, yet the communities they have established are ultimately pretty weak and prone to decline just as fast, or faster than they appeared.

I compare it to the decline of the Church of Scotland which has been on a downward trend for over half a century. Some have predicted it will close before 2040. Yet in some ways it displays more resilience than JWs. Ten years ago I would never have expected that the Church of Scotland Yearbook would outlast the JW Yearbook, and yet here in 2019 the JW Yearbook is discontinued, and the CofS red Yearbooks are still going strong.