Posts by slimboyfat

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I want to understand British references to your countries.

by compound complex in

jw
friends

greetings, friends across the two ponds:.

of course, as per other posters' recommendations, i could google this; i have and remain, not totally confused, but wanting the straight dope as well as nuanced meaning.

i'm both curious and needing to know for purposes of editing works of american and british writers.

slimboyfat

People often say Britain or Great Britain when they mean the United Kingdom. Whether this is just common useage or plain wrong I guess depends on your perspective. Even the Olympic team from the United Kingdom is called "Great Britain", which some people think is fine, and other people think is wrong or stupid or both. Because strictly speaking "Great Britain" notionally excludes people from Norther Ireland, and other islands, that compete as part of the "Great Britain" team.

Incidentally the term "Great Britain" was originally intended to distinguish the island of Britain from the smaller region of France called Brittany. It was not intended to imply "greatness" as such, imperial or otherwise, as some have taken it mean; most commonly as in the embarrassing phrase: "Britain didn't become 'great' by... accepting orders from Brussels", or whatever else the person has a bee in their bonnet over.

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I want to understand British references to your countries.

by compound complex in

jw
friends

greetings, friends across the two ponds:.

of course, as per other posters' recommendations, i could google this; i have and remain, not totally confused, but wanting the straight dope as well as nuanced meaning.

i'm both curious and needing to know for purposes of editing works of american and british writers.

slimboyfat

So, there're the British Isles, The United Kingdom, and a separation, I gather, of Ireland from Wales, England, Scotland

It's even slightly more complicated than that, because the "United Kingdom" consists of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. It is the Republic of Ireland (South) that is excluded from the "United Kingdom".

I am not even sure about the status of the smaller islands such as the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands in relation to the United Kingdom, let alone foreign possessions (or whatever you call them) such as Gibraltar and the Falklands.

A more useful distinction that people often get wrong is between Britain the island and the British Isles.

Britain - is the geographic island that consists of Scotland, England and Wales.

British Isles - is the archipelago that includes Britain, Ireland, the Isle of Man, Orkney, Shetlands, Isle of Wight, and other small islands between the Atlantic and the North Sea.

So Dublin, Belfast, Lerwick and Douglas are in the British Isles, but they are not on Britain, whereas London, Edinburgh and Cardiff are on both.

Apparently there are 194 inhabitied islands in the British Isles. Britain is the largest but there are many more. Here is a list:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_of_the_British_Isles

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Sister may have had a slight heart attack, do I text her?

by Xanthippe in

jw
friends

so my cousin phoned and told me my jw sister was taken to hospital with chest pains and it may have been a slight heart attack or possibly she's starting with angina.

now as some of you know my sisters and brother have had little to do with me for 29 years.

we've met at funerals, or arranged them, but i just thought today what if she did die?

slimboyfat

Forget them Xan, you are good. Unless you want to message her for own well-being. Do whatever you want to do. But they’ve forfeited too much consideration in my opinion.

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Are Anointed Female JW`s To Grow Beards In Heaven ?

by smiddy3 in

ok i have been out for over 25 years however i was active for 33 years and every picture /illustration of the 144,000 in wt publications i ever saw always showed the anointed/144000 with jesus on the throne apparently all male with beards.. not one woman was ever depicted in their drawings/illustrations that i ever saw of those sharing kingly rule with christ jesus not one.. and the saying is : 'a picture speaks more than a thousand words".

i can hear a jw apologist saying now [ their is no gender in heaven neither male or female ] well if that is the case why are everybody illustrated wearing a beard clearly a sign of being of the male gender.?.

in the wt illustrations/pictures of angels they are not shown as having beards giving the impression they are neither male or female .however not with those taken to heaven to rule with christ the anointed.. maybe the governing body of jehovah`s witnesses are showing their true feelings about women who claim to be of the anointed .. that the g.b.

slimboyfat

Sometimes I think to myself that all the discussions on this forum have already been raised multiple times before. Other days not so much.

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The Harp of God book

by blownaway in

i am looking for the book the harp of god.

i am told it has some crazy passages in it.

can anyone put up some quotes of the book?

slimboyfat

I did just mention Schnell's book to Earnest above. I have read it a couple of times. Schnell was a very interesting character for sure. Tony Wills has a good discussion of him in A People for His Name. The actual reason he left JWs I find intriguing. Which as far as I can make out is because Watchtower didn't like Schnell making money selling books. Schnell is listed as an ordained minister of Watchtower in the yearbooks of the 1930s and 1940s, plus a number of his letters to Watchtower were published in the magazine. Wills claimed that some of these undermined claims Schnell would later make in Thirty Years a Watchtower Slave.

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Highly Recommended exJW YouTube Channel

by Sour Grapes in

i am a subscriber on youtube for kim and mikey, marc and cora, susan gaskin, stacy lopez, spike r, and several others.

i recently found a channel called anonni mowse and she is just fantastic.

she is so down to earth, very educated, and speaks her mind so clearly about her being in the cult.

slimboyfat

Irish, no?

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The Harp of God book

by blownaway in

i am looking for the book the harp of god.

i am told it has some crazy passages in it.

can anyone put up some quotes of the book?

slimboyfat

Sorry about your dad OrphanCrow.

That's excellent research Earnest thank you very much. I wonder if you have an opinion why Rutherford changed his mind about Zionism. The idea that Rutherford was very involved in Germany and used it as a testing ground for "theocratic" policies was promoted in the (in)famous book Thirty Years a Watchtower Slave by William Schnell. Have you ever read that? A fascinating book in many ways, but not to be terribly relied upon for matters of fact. I had to laugh when I found that an active JW had written a book called Forty Years as Jehovah's Willing Slave, or something similar.

careful, maybe Franz was behind the change, but reading what Rutherford wrote about the subject it's hard to avoid the impression he took it personally.

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Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

by dubstepped in

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friends

so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

slimboyfat

You don't think there is the tiniest bit of irony insulting someone and complaining about insults in the same breath?

I'm curious, did he even call you names like that? If not, then it's even more ironic.

And I get insulted just for pointing out the irony? When have I ever called you names? It's not impossible I suppose. So I won't say, I've never called you a name ever. But I honestly don't remember ever calling you names. But for you it's a habit to insult people and call them names. Tell them what they've read, what they should read, but that you don't need to read something in order to criticise it. And so on.

You habitually do exactly what you accuse other people.

Like that, always saying others need to read about evolution before cricising it (a fair enough point in itself) but refusing to do the same yourself on other perspectives.

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The Harp of God book

by blownaway in

i am looking for the book the harp of god.

i am told it has some crazy passages in it.

can anyone put up some quotes of the book?

slimboyfat

Have you got evidence for these claims?

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The Harp of God book

by blownaway in

i am looking for the book the harp of god.

i am told it has some crazy passages in it.

can anyone put up some quotes of the book?

slimboyfat

Are you arguing that JWs rejected Zionism in response to Mein Kampf? That's so ridiculous you can't mean that, can you? But otherwise I don't know what your post is meant to say. Maybe you could explain.

It's true that Mein Kampf was published in 1925 and was quite popular in Germany even before Hitler came to power. It wasn't translated into English until 1933. Rutherford rejected Zionism before 1933. Watchtower literature also criticised the Nazis even before they came to power.