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slimboyfat
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Any information about an apostate from the 30s?
by paradiseseeker inhere in spain we have just had a special visit from the central branch representative (well i'm not sure what his position is) and in his talk he mentioned an episode in which an apostate and his supporters were expelled from bethel in the early 30s under rutherford's rule.
i didn't catch the name, it was something like "shutter" or "shulter".
this event was mentioned to bring attention to a woman who was very close to this apostate and just because of that she was unfairly expelled from bethel as well, but she was "humble" and "content" enough to leave the matter on jehovah's hands and she was reaccepted in bethel after a while.
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"DO NOT look here! Seriously...just dont!"
by stuckinarut2 inok, so you all looked here??.
this thread is prompted by losch's stupid 'decrees' in the march 2018 broadcast, where he denounced online information that may be 'negative' about the organization.. it strikes me that the gb are so dumb!
the moment someone says "dont look at something", human curiousity will make most people look.
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slimboyfat
Plus, because of the taboo of looking at apostate material, anyone who does look at it is immediately cut off, mentally, from other JWs, because they can't discuss with others what they found. Or they can only do so extremely cautiously. So it creates a barrier between people who've considered apostate ideas and those who haven't. Or between everyone in fact, including between two people who have both considered apostate ideas, but can't talk to each other about it, or are not aware the other person has the same thoughts as them. Watchtower is everywhere about creating barriers between people. Which is a shame because their teachings on race equality and anti-war have great potential for breaking down barriers.
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Leaked Videos-Petra-I need help!
by Atlantis inleaked videos.i need help with these leaked videos.
grampa has a whole stack ofthem but they need to be reduced in size.i have never seen these videos before.
some are pretty large in size,so if someone could reduce their size and get them on youtube be myguest.
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slimboyfat
Main news from accounting department: we have no clue what the GB are trying to achieve. But we own a lot of buildings. Plus candid comments are welcome, as long as they are positive.
Interesting interview in the 2018 video after 35 minutes.
Only JWs showcase instances of spiritual abuse as if it's a good thing.
Brother Steve Bergman 41 years at bethel born in 1956. His grandmother told him if he didn't "make changes" Jehovah would destroy him at Armageddon. He had to give up his friends at school, cut his long hair ("grandma hated my long hair"), attend all meetings, read magazines, Bible study, dedicate and get baptised. When did he get baptised? January 1975. Uh huh. Nice.
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Leaked Videos-Petra-I need help!
by Atlantis inleaked videos.i need help with these leaked videos.
grampa has a whole stack ofthem but they need to be reduced in size.i have never seen these videos before.
some are pretty large in size,so if someone could reduce their size and get them on youtube be myguest.
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slimboyfat
Accounting department meeting! Seriously? I can't wait.
Collapse deniers beware.
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another business idea for watchtower PLC
by stan livedeath inits been mentioned before---care homes.
in the uk there are a few ( no idea how many ) jireh care homes--loosely connected with the watchtower.. but take this on board.
the dubs are an ever aging customer base.. in the uk, lots of the ageing population end their years in privately run care homes.
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slimboyfat
I mentioned this on another thread a couple of hours ago. The HQ in Chelmsford could be converted into a care home. The Christadelphians have done this. In fact care homes seems to be their main charitable activity now.
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Watchtower Telephone Books!
by Atlantis inwatchtower telephone booksdownload1999https://we.tl/2wddq7vcwv2015https://we.tl/pfhhniienc2017https://we.tl/pjxyjtvbrx.
petra!.
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slimboyfat
Gorby and Richard, the 2017 booklet is for Britain branch, hence no GB.
I’d say there’s potential for lots of interesting analysis of jobs and personnel turnover here. Definitely documents to hold on to.
Would be great to get more years and branches, Germany in particular. Plus closed branches such as Switzerland and Austria.
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Sunday's Watchtower Study March 18... Another Money Appeal
by BluesBrother injanuary 2018 issue "why give to the one who has everything?
an unashamed contribution appeal... this one with the most manipulative language i can imagine... it may have been commented on before, but i am going to anyway.. p5 quote.
"would you not agree that jehovah is worthy of all the glory and honor that we can give him by offering the best that we have?
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slimboyfat
Anyone who thinks they aren’t in serious trouble isn’t paying attention. This is full on begging with “prosperity doctrine” bribery on top.
But Witnesses are deeply stingy and will not be roused to give more money easily, or at all. Print literature has been all but abandoned. They are being asked for more money at a time when they are being provided less than ever in return. And congregation autonomy over finances has been removed. Even JWs notice these things.
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Jehovah`s Witnesses / Parasites On Christendom ,they need to thank them for the membership they have today.
by smiddy3 injehovah`s witnesses claim that all their beliefs are based on the bible.the bible clearly states early on in deut.4:2 not to add to the word....and rev.22:18 re-iterates much the same thing in not to make additions to the word of god.. i think we could agree on that the organization has raised the bar on that one with their "weasel" words on so many issues that have already been thrashed out on this forum.. so a few other things that come to my mind are : with regards to j.w`s being parasites on christendom.. 1. they claim christendom apostatized itself from true christianity by the 3rd century , yet they accept apostate christendoms determination of what books are to be included in the bible as gods word as if they were governed by holy spirit to do so.?.
2.jehovah`s witnesses have only ever followed in christendoms missionaries footsteps where they have gone preaching and poaching off of the work these missionaries that have laid the groundwork before them .. 3.jehovah`s witnesses have never opened up virgin territory and gone where no other christian missionary has ever gone before .
{ not to my knowledge anyway i stand to be corrected if i am wrong on this point}.
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slimboyfat
I think JWs agree with this: the parable of the dragnet.
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If the Watchtower corporation went bust
by Fred Franztone inwhat do you think would happen to jehovah's witnesses as a religion and as a people?.
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slimboyfat
I agree Watchtower is in the middle of collapsing, as evidenced by selling off branches, firing special pioneers and sending bethelites home.
Except I think it could get a whole lot worse. They could start selliing KHs and assembly halls even where there is no plausible organisational justification.
Plus the new branch in England is a real one to watch. In reality they don't need it any more at all, because it won't do any printing. But to reverse plans and sell it off would be such a major climbdown they will only do it if they absolutely have to. Which I think they will, and send the money the United States to keep the headquarters functioning just a little bit longer.
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How soon is soon?
by Sour Grapes ini guess if the jdubs have no clue how long a generation is they also wouldn't know how long a time period the word "soon" refers too.. 60 years ago my mother would hammer into my brain how soon the great tribulation was.
soon jehovah would destroy the wicked.
then a few years later there was no need to go to college because the end was so soon.
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slimboyfat
I believe Watchtower writers could benefit from an explanation of "near and far" from our old pal Grover.